[時事新聞] 總統國際記者會: BBC記者的提問
關於此議題的專頁公告: http://bit.ly/383sBfd
剛剛在聽總統國際記者會時,對於一位BBC記者的問題感到驚訝:
Thank you very much, and congratulations first, President Tsai, on tonight’s result. A few months ago, you were struggling in the polls. Many people suggest that the turnaround in your fortunes is because of the actions of China. Its threats that you mentioned tonight. Its putting of the aircraft carriers through the Taiwan Strait, the situation in Hong Kong. So my question to you is this: Do you think you have the Chinese president Xi Jinping to thank for this victory.*
非常感謝您,蔡總統,首先祝賀今晚的結果。幾個月前,您在民意調查中苦苦掙扎。許多人認為,您的命運的轉變是由於中國的行動。您今晚提到的威脅—航空母艦開向台灣海峽和香港的局勢。所以我對您的問題是:您認為您應該向中國國家主席習近平為這次勝利表示感謝嗎?*
*您認為您的勝利歸因於中國國家主席習近平嗎?
have sb to thank (for sth)
1. to say that you are grateful to someone who is responsible for something good happening. This expression is sometimes used HUMOROUSLY to mean that you are not grateful for what someone has done.
對(某人)感謝
I have Phil to thank for getting me my first job.
https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/have-somebody-to-thank-for-doing-something
2. If you have someone to thank for something, that person is responsible or to blame for it.
由(某人)對…負責;應責怪(某人)
You have John to thank for this problem.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/have-sb-to-thank-for-sth
EDIT: 我個人認為,此一題問似乎高估了中國對蔡總統勝選──臺灣人民以自由意志所選出的總統──的影響。不可否認,中國對臺灣的行動已與日俱增,但問題的設定似乎過分強調中國這一因素,而輕忽了臺灣人民的努力。大約40秒的問句只要加一句 "The people of Taiwan have won a great democratic victory tonight" 我就認為完全妥當。這是我的個人觀點。
★★★★★★★★★★★★
…I am not qualified to answer this question for the President, but I would like to express my opinion.
…我沒有資格代表總統回答這個問題,但我想表達對這個問題的看法。
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The people of Taiwan do not have General Secretary Xi Jinping to "thank" for this democratic victory. They have the sacrifices of thousands of democratic reformers and activists around the world to thank for their right to vote and the right to have their voices heard. It is unfortunate that the threats you mentioned are perceived by some as being responsible for tonight's victory.
臺灣的總統並不需要針對此次的民主選舉「感謝」習總書記。總統和全臺灣的人民需要感謝的是全球成千上萬的為了民主而犧牲的改革者,感謝由於他們奮鬥而獲得的投票權與發表自己意見的權利。不幸的是,一些人似乎認為今晚的勝利應歸功於您所提到的這些威脅。
毫無疑問,有些人並不同意我的回應。但是,若您稍加觀察,便可發現我是圍繞著「have…to thank、 對(某人)感謝」來進行回應,並提出個人觀點。在「thank、感謝」周圍加上引號,唸起來就會有特別的語氣,或許能更加凸顯充分理解幽默的部分。 別人用幽默的語氣問我,並不代表我不能以字面上的意涵去作正式的回應,畢竟這是正式的場合。
在長年旅居美國的生活經驗中,隨處都可聽見以雙關作為諷刺性質的幽默(my sarcasm detector is functional)。事實上,從我的回應也不難看出,我認為不恰當的地方乃在於,提問的內容及其所強調者──中國因素。
★★★★★★★★★★★★
完整影片: https://youtu.be/yKVW475EnA4?t=6421
完整報導: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51077553
★★★★★★★★★★★★
補充說明 1:
在當場大家都認識這位記者,因為直接稱呼他的名字,總統也對他的評語微笑。但是明顯這種發問的方式造成困擾,不然今天不會那麼多人有共鳴討論此事件。在同時也可以看到旁邊的外媒微笑搖頭,翻譯也高EQ地直接跳過這一句,因此這樣的幽默在這樣正式的場合並不是那麼恰當。
From the video, it's clear that the President and her staff know Mr. Sudworth on a first name basis. The interpreter most likely skipped the question to avoid controversy, and you can see an adjacent reporter shaking his head while smiling. Whether "humor" was appropriate for such a context is for you to decide.
在國際場合英文的使用不限制於一個區域的觀眾,並且這個「英式幽默的」問題並非只是一個無傷大雅朋友之間的玩笑,而是在測探回答者的智慧。個人覺得翻譯和總統的回應都非常專業,只是覺得發問者的問題格外犀利但或許這就是他的本意吧。
This discussion here extends beyond just language interpretation/translation and understanding word denotation and connotation. To dismiss criticisms as "not understanding humor" is simply ignoring the social, political, and cultural contexts in which language is used. The question was specifically framed to highlight China's influence and prod President Tsai for more insight. I personally find it to be caustic and not entirely suited for the topic: the democratic victory of the Taiwanese people. I regret not including this and more background information in the original post.
★★★★★★★★★★★★
補充說明2:
英國《BBC》的記者提問蔡英文,拿下歷史最高票「會不會和習近平說聲謝謝」,蔡英文瞬間笑了,但女翻譯愣2秒的反應卻成為焦點。
https://www.setn.com/news.aspx?NewsID=670861
《BBC》記者表示,蔡英文的勝選帶有政治諷刺意味。如果中國共產黨沒有對台灣施壓、對香港危機的態度難以捉摸,台灣候選人的勝利之路可能就不會那麼確定。「結果宣布後,我問蔡英文,她是否有為她的勝利感謝中國國家主席習近平。她笑了。」
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/3037675
After the result was announced I asked Tsai Ing-wen whether she had the Chinese President Xi Jinping to thank for her victory.
She smiled.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51077553
英國廣播公司BBC特派記者約翰薩沃斯,在11日的記者會第一個獲得發問機會,特別問到蔡英文會不會感謝習近平,蔡英文沒有正面回答,只以微笑來回應。德國之聲DW台北特派記者江穎怡也報導,「很多台灣人認為(中國鎮壓)香港證明了一國兩制的失敗。」
https://news.pts.org.tw/article/462512
不過,現場卻發生一段小插曲。一直關心中國民主人權問題的BBC記者沙磊(John Sudworth),是記者會上首名提問的記者。他先是恭喜蔡英文當選,之後提到,幾個月前蔡的民調仍然不穩,但中共對台的威脅加上香港反送中運動,是外界認為本次大選獲勝原因,他詢問蔡英文:「你會不會為了這次勝利,向習近平道謝?」
https://hk.news.appledaily.com/china/realtime/article/20200112/60476407
Some claim that the literal translation of 「道謝」by the press was improper. I am not a professional translator by any means, but a literal translation might be provided because it is immensely difficult to get across the full intent of the speaker with a few lines of text. Just the phrase "thank you" could be interpreted in diverse ways in discourse analysis. Interpretation and translation of speech require consideration of stress, body language, and social contexts. If the reporters above provided a connotative translation, the language used would be subjective as it would directly reflect what the translator believes to be the speaker's intentional meaning. Thus, a full video of the press conference was included in nearly every one of the reports to provide readers with additional context. Journalists also have pragmatic concerns (reach, readership), so the language used has to be specific, emphatic, and concise. These reasons might offer some insight on why「道謝」was used instead of a connotative translation.
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[時事新聞] 總統國際記者會: BBC記者的提問
關於此議題的專頁公告: http://bit.ly/383sBfd
剛剛在聽總統國際記者會時,對於一位BBC記者的問題感到驚訝:
Thank you very much, and congratulations first, President Tsai, on tonight’s result. A few months ago, you were struggling in the polls. Many people suggest that the turnaround in your fortunes is because of the actions of China. Its threats that you mentioned tonight. Its putting of the aircraft carriers through the Taiwan Strait, the situation in Hong Kong. So my question to you is this: Do you think you have the Chinese president Xi Jinping to thank for this victory.*
非常感謝您,蔡總統,首先祝賀今晚的結果。幾個月前,您在民意調查中苦苦掙扎。許多人認為,您的命運的轉變是由於中國的行動。您今晚提到的威脅—航空母艦開向台灣海峽和香港的局勢。所以我對您的問題是:您認為您應該向中國國家主席習近平為這次勝利表示感謝嗎?*
*您認為您的勝利歸因於中國國家主席習近平嗎?
have sb to thank (for sth)
1. to say that you are grateful to someone who is responsible for something good happening. This expression is sometimes used HUMOROUSLY to mean that you are not grateful for what someone has done.
對(某人)感謝
I have Phil to thank for getting me my first job.
https://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/have-somebody-to-thank-for-doing-something
2. If you have someone to thank for something, that person is responsible or to blame for it.
由(某人)對…負責;應責怪(某人)
You have John to thank for this problem.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/have-sb-to-thank-for-sth
EDIT: 我個人認為,此一題問似乎高估了中國對蔡總統勝選──臺灣人民以自由意志所選出的總統──的影響。不可否認,中國對臺灣的行動已與日俱增,但問題的設定似乎過分強調中國這一因素,而輕忽了臺灣人民的努力。大約40秒的問句只要加一句 "The people of Taiwan have won a great democratic victory tonight" 我就認為完全妥當。這是我的個人觀點。
★★★★★★★★★★★★
…I am not qualified to answer this question for the President, but I would like to express my opinion.
…我沒有資格代表總統回答這個問題,但我想表達對這個問題的看法。
★★★★★★★★★★★★
The people of Taiwan do not have General Secretary Xi Jinping to "thank" for this democratic victory. They have the sacrifices of thousands of democratic reformers and activists around the world to thank for their right to vote and the right to have their voices heard. It is unfortunate that the threats you mentioned are perceived by some as being responsible for tonight's victory.
臺灣的總統並不需要針對此次的民主選舉「感謝」習總書記。總統和全臺灣的人民需要感謝的是全球成千上萬的為了民主而犧牲的改革者,感謝由於他們奮鬥而獲得的投票權與發表自己意見的權利。不幸的是,一些人似乎認為今晚的勝利應歸功於您所提到的這些威脅。
毫無疑問,有些人並不同意我的回應。但是,若您稍加觀察,便可發現我是圍繞著「have…to thank、 對(某人)感謝」來進行回應,並提出個人觀點。在「thank、感謝」周圍加上引號,唸起來就會有特別的語氣,或許能更加凸顯充分理解幽默的部分。 別人用幽默的語氣問我,並不代表我不能以字面上的意涵去作正式的回應,畢竟這是正式的場合。
在長年旅居美國的生活經驗中,隨處都可聽見以雙關作為諷刺性質的幽默(my sarcasm detector is functional)。事實上,從我的回應也不難看出,我認為不恰當的地方乃在於,提問的內容及其所強調者──中國因素。
★★★★★★★★★★★★
完整影片: https://youtu.be/yKVW475EnA4?t=6421
完整報導: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51077553
★★★★★★★★★★★★
補充說明 1:
在當場大家都認識這位記者,因為直接稱呼他的名字,總統也對他的評語微笑。但是明顯這種發問的方式造成困擾,不然今天不會那麼多人有共鳴討論此事件。在同時也可以看到旁邊的外媒微笑搖頭,翻譯也高EQ地直接跳過這一句,因此這樣的幽默在這樣正式的場合並不是那麼恰當。
From the video, it's clear that the President and her staff know Mr. Sudworth on a first name basis. The interpreter most likely skipped the question to avoid controversy, and you can see an adjacent reporter shaking his head while smiling. Whether "humor" was appropriate for such a context is for you to decide.
在國際場合英文的使用不限制於一個區域的觀眾,並且這個「英式幽默的」問題並非只是一個無傷大雅朋友之間的玩笑,而是在測探回答者的智慧。個人覺得翻譯和總統的回應都非常專業,只是覺得發問者的問題格外犀利但或許這就是他的本意吧。
This discussion here extends beyond just language interpretation/translation and understanding word denotation and connotation. To dismiss criticisms as "not understanding humor" is simply ignoring the social, political, and cultural contexts in which language is used. The question was specifically framed to highlight China's influence and prod President Tsai for more insight. I personally find it to be caustic and not entirely suited for the topic: the democratic victory of the Taiwanese people. I regret not including this and more background information in the original post.
★★★★★★★★★★★★
補充說明2:
英國《BBC》的記者提問蔡英文,拿下歷史最高票「會不會和習近平說聲謝謝」,蔡英文瞬間笑了,但女翻譯愣2秒的反應卻成為焦點。
https://www.setn.com/news.aspx?NewsID=670861
《BBC》記者表示,蔡英文的勝選帶有政治諷刺意味。如果中國共產黨沒有對台灣施壓、對香港危機的態度難以捉摸,台灣候選人的勝利之路可能就不會那麼確定。「結果宣布後,我問蔡英文,她是否有為她的勝利感謝中國國家主席習近平。她笑了。」
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/3037675
After the result was announced I asked Tsai Ing-wen whether she had the Chinese President Xi Jinping to thank for her victory.
She smiled.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51077553
英國廣播公司BBC特派記者約翰薩沃斯,在11日的記者會第一個獲得發問機會,特別問到蔡英文會不會感謝習近平,蔡英文沒有正面回答,只以微笑來回應。德國之聲DW台北特派記者江穎怡也報導,「很多台灣人認為(中國鎮壓)香港證明了一國兩制的失敗。」
https://news.pts.org.tw/article/462512
不過,現場卻發生一段小插曲。一直關心中國民主人權問題的BBC記者沙磊(John Sudworth),是記者會上首名提問的記者。他先是恭喜蔡英文當選,之後提到,幾個月前蔡的民調仍然不穩,但中共對台的威脅加上香港反送中運動,是外界認為本次大選獲勝原因,他詢問蔡英文:「你會不會為了這次勝利,向習近平道謝?」
https://hk.news.appledaily.com/china/realtime/article/20200112/60476407
Some claim that the literal translation of 「道謝」by the press was improper. I am not a professional translator by any means, but a literal translation might be provided because it is immensely difficult to get across the full intent of the speaker with a few lines of text. Just the phrase "thank you" could be interpreted in diverse ways in discourse analysis. Interpretation and translation of speech require consideration of stress, body language, and social contexts. If the reporters above provided a connotative translation, the language used would be subjective as it would directly reflect what the translator believes to be the speaker's intentional meaning. Thus, a full video of the press conference was included in nearly every one of the reports to provide readers with additional context. Journalists also have pragmatic concerns (reach, readership), so the language used has to be specific, emphatic, and concise. These reasons might offer some insight on why「道謝」was used instead of a connotative translation.
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【亞洲究竟何時才會通過同性婚姻?】(中譯)
Foreign Policy 於日前(11/30) 刊出專文報導台灣婚姻平權法案進程,文章以伴侶盟發起「婚姻平權革命陣線」,於 2014/10/5 彩虹圍城行動中,群眾把婚姻平權四個大球推入立院作為開頭。精要勾勒了近年來台灣婚姻平權發展簡史,並詳盡分析了目前法案風雲詭譎的政治情勢,報導也委婉但明確點出,婚姻平權法案的通過與否,正在考驗著蔡總統的領導能力與政治誠信。
原文 參見
http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/11/30/marriage-equality-in-taiwan-isnt-a-done-deal-tsai-ing-wen-legislation-lgbt-taipei/?wp_login_redirect=0
作者/LINDA VAN DER HORST
2016年11月30日
中文翻譯:Tasha Chang
標題:When Will Asia Finally Have Same-Sex Marriage?
亞洲究竟何時才會通過同性婚姻??
Taiwan is on the verge of becoming the first Asian government to legalize marriage equality. But the public is deeply divided.
台灣即將成為亞洲第一個同性婚姻合法化的國家,但輿論仍高度分歧。
In October 2014, a crowd at an LGBT rights rally in Taipei, one of many, lobbed four large red balloons emblazoned with the Chinese characters for marriage equality into the fenced courtyard of Taiwan’s legislature. At that time, a comfortable majority of Taiwanese supported same-sex marriage; a number of polls in the self-governing island of 23 million indicated as much, with one showing as many as 71 percent in favor. But several initiatives to amend the law to achieve marriage equality, first mooted in 2003, have not been successful. Two years later, three marriage equality bills now sit on legislators’ desks; although international media have been quick to announce that Taiwan stands on the cusp of being the first government in Asia to achieve marriage equality, the island’s public seems deeply divided. In the latest poll on the subject, released on Nov. 29, 46 percent of respondents supported marriage equality, while 45 percent opposed it. Meanwhile, Taiwan’s lawmakers and its civil society have been more cautious than recent headlines in Western media suggest.
2014年10月,在架起拒馬的立法院外,有一大群為了同志權益發聲的群眾,高推著四顆分別寫著「婚」、「姻」、「平」、「權」四字的紅色大球,推往立法院的方向。當時,在有著2,300萬人口的台灣,有絕大多數民眾都支持婚姻平權,幾個民意調查也顯示同樣的結果,其中有個調查的支持度甚至還高達71%。然而,最早於2003年所發動,接續欲修法以達成婚姻平權的數個提案,最後都無疾而終。兩年後,三套版本的婚姻平權法案現正擺在立法委員的案前等待審議。雖然國際媒體迅速下了判斷宣告台灣即將成為亞洲第一個達成婚姻平權的國家,但台灣的民意似乎仍高度分歧。最近一次於今年11月29日公布的一份調查指出,46%的受訪者支持婚姻平權,另有45%的受訪者表示反對。同時,相較於西方國際媒體樂觀的報導走向,台灣的立法委員與公民社會的態度反而較為小心謹慎。
Island-wide marriage equality initiatives have been unsuccessful in spite of growing support over decades. Even without national legislation, many local governments in Taiwan now allow same-sex couples to participate in collective weddings and to record their partnership in household registries across the island, although neither action confers any legal rights.
過去數十年,即便婚姻平權的支持度越來越高,推動婚姻平權的行動卻屢遭挫敗。雖然中央尚未立法保障同志權益,台灣有許多地方政府已開放同性伴侶參與聯合婚禮並開放同性伴侶註記,然無論是聯合婚禮還是同性伴侶註記,皆未能給予同性伴侶法律上的權利。
To many, the election of President Tsai Ing-wen and her Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) in January portended a broader, deeper change. Tsai openly made statements that appeared to support marriage equality during and after her campaign. In an October 2015 Facebook video posted to coincide with Taipei’s annual LGBT pride parade, Tsai exclaimed, “Everyone is equal before love.” A year later, she posted a photo on her Facebook page showing a rainbow, adding that her “belief has not changed” post-election. In August, Tsai appointed the first transgender official in government, Audrey Tang, as executive councilor for digital policy, which looked like another step toward acceptance of different gender norms.
對於許多人來說,現任總統蔡英文與其所屬政黨民主進步黨(民進黨)在一月總統大選的勝選,預告了更大幅度、更深程度的改變。無論是在選舉期間或當選後,蔡英文數次公開發表支持婚姻平權的文章。2015年10月,為響應臺北的年度同志大遊行,蔡英文的臉書發表了一支影片,影片中的蔡英文說道:「在愛之前,大家都是平等的。」一年過後,她在臉書上發佈了一則彩虹橫跨天際的照片,補充道:「雖然我的身分變了,但是我相信的價值沒有改變」,強調選後立場沒有改變。今年八月,蔡英文內閣任命首位跨性別官員唐鳳擔任政務委員,督導數位經濟與開放政府。此舉看來又是另一個接納不同性別典範的舉措。
Since Tsai took office this May, pressure has been building on her to deliver.
自蔡英文五月就任後,要求實現承諾的壓力升高
Since Tsai took office this May, pressure has been building on her to deliver. Yet she has never explicitly promised that her administration would push for same-sex marriage legislation, and critics have feared that once in office, she would find herself unable to follow through on her progressive rhetoric. The party that Tsai leads, the DPP, “has neither devoted sufficient resources to communicate the issues of marriage equality nor to reconcile differences within the party,” Victoria Hsu, who heads the nonprofit Taiwan Alliance to Promote Civil Partnership Rights (TAPCPR), told Foreign Policy.
蔡英文自今年五月就任後,要求她實現承諾的壓力不斷升高。然而,蔡英文卻從來沒有公開承諾她的行政團隊會推動婚姻平權的立法,批評者認為,一旦就任,蔡英文就無法堅持實現她過往曾發表過充滿進步性的言論。非營利組織台灣伴侶權益推動聯盟理事長許秀雯向《外交政策》表示,「蔡總統所領導的民進黨一直沒有真正投注夠多的資源在婚姻平權議題之上,或去溝通與化解黨內歧見。」
It was therefore a setback when Justice Minister Chiu Tai-san announced in August that his ministry still intended to introduce its own same-sex partnership bill — but only in 2017, after studying the impact of such a law on Taiwanese society. (In Taiwan, ministries can introduce bills into the legislature.) The effort dates back to the previous, more socially conservative Kuomintang (KMT) administration of Ma Ying-jeou and is an attempt to compromise between supporters of marriage equality and religious groups opposed. Proposing a separate law for same-sex partnership is politically easier, as it leaves the institution of marriage as currently constituted unchanged.
於是,當法務部長邱太三在八月宣布,經過研究相關法律對於台灣社會的影響,法務部仍傾向在2017年推出同性伴侶法時(台灣的行政部門可自行推出法案送進立法院審議),對於同志社群來說是一大挫敗。推行同性伴侶法可溯及較為保守的國民黨馬英九政府當權時期,用意在面對支持婚姻平權的群眾與反對婚姻平權的宗教團體中取得妥協。對於當政者而言,推動同性伴侶專法因未修改現行婚姻制度,在政治上的壓力較小。
In the absence of strong top-down leadership on the issue from Tsai, momentum for the bills currently under consideration has come from the bottom up. Audrey Ko, the chief editor of Womany, an online media outlet focused on gender issues and LGBT rights, says a stigma remains for gays and lesbians in Taiwan, one her company seeks to dispel. Other organizations, such as the Taiwan Tongzhi (LGBT) Hotline Association, perform peer counseling and advocacy work. Even corporations are chipping in; in March, McDonald’s released a commercial in which a son comes out to his father in one of its restaurants. (The father accepts it.)
缺少蔡英文「從上而下」貫徹的領導力,對於三個版本婚姻平權法案的支持聲量多來自「由下而上」的力量。關注性別與同志議題的線上媒體女人迷總編輯柯采岑表示,臺灣的同志族群還是被污名化,而女人迷就是想要破除此種污名;其他的組織例如台灣同志諮詢熱線協會則提供同志諮詢服務與倡議。企業也紛紛響應婚姻平權的議題。今年三月,在麥當勞發表的電視廣告中,有一個兒子在麥當勞向自己的父親出櫃(而父親也接受他了)。
This summer, a number of Taiwanese pop artists organized a benefit concert to raise awareness for marriage equality; tickets sold out in minutes. Pop superstar Jolin Tsai performed a lesbian-themed song for the occasion. In the music video for the song “We’re All Different, Yet the Same,” she makes the case for marriage equality by describing the plight of a woman whose partner of more than 30 years is hospitalized; the woman is unable to sign a consent form for emergency surgery because she is legally not a spouse or family member.
今年夏天,有多個臺灣流行音樂藝人組織了一場為婚姻平權而唱的公益演唱會,演唱會門票一開賣就在幾分鐘內售罄。流行樂天后蔡依林在該場演唱會中也演出以女同志為主題的歌。在她的「不一樣又怎樣」的MV中,描述了一對相守30年的女同志伴侶,其中一位因病住院,然她的伴侶卻無法在她需要進行緊急手術時簽署手術同意書,因為她的伴侶並不具有配偶或是親屬的身份。
A real-life version of this tragedy triggered public outcry and reinvigorated support for marriage equality. On Oct. 16, 67-year-old French professor Jacques Picoux fell to his death from the top of a 10-story building in Taipei, police said. He is thought to have committed suicide after depression caused by the death of his partner due to cancer; Picoux was unable to make medical decisions for his partner in his final days, as Picoux had no legal status. In a response to this outcry, legislators from the DPP and the KMT, as well as the caucus of the New Power Party (NPP), a young activist organization, all introduced similar marriage equality bills.
此種悲劇的真實案例引發了社會上強烈的抗議聲浪,推動婚姻平權運動更進一步。在今年10月16日,據警方表示,67歲的法國籍教授畢安生(Jacques Picoux)從位於台北的10樓住家一躍而下身亡。據悉,他有可能是因長期伴侶因癌症過世所引發的憂鬱症而自殺。當畢安生的伴侶在癌症末期時,因他沒有法律地位而無法替伴侶做醫療決定。為了回應關於婚姻平權的呼聲,民進黨與國民黨的立委以及由年輕的社運組織所組成的時代力量的黨團都推出了類似的婚姻平權法案。
All three proposals would amend the Taiwan Civil Code to open marriage to same-sex couples, but they differ in how to do so. DPP legislator Yu Mei-nu’s proposal introduces a general provision extending to same-sex couples the right to marriage, as well as other family law rights that accompany married status. But it leaves further gendered language across the civil code intact. The proposals of KMT legislator Hsu Yu-ren and the NPP would make references to “husband and wife” and “father and mother” gender-neutral throughout all relevant civil code provisions. These latter two proposals have great symbolic meaning, because they remove a heterosexual presumption from the code, but the legal effect is likely no different than Yu’s proposal.
這三個提案都主張修改民法將婚姻制度對同性伴侶開放,但對於如何開放則各有其詮釋。民進黨尤美女的版本採用一概括條款(註:新增民法971-1條)使同性配偶適用夫妻、父母子女等相關權利義務,但保留了民法中「性別化」的法律用語,未加修改。國民黨立委許毓仁與時代力量黨團的版本則將「夫妻」、「父母」等現行民法中的用語性別中立化。許毓仁與時代力量的版本,將異性戀預設的用語「性別中立化」而具有重大的象徵性意義,但若在法律適用結果而論,三個版本並無太大差異。
There is still a long legislative road to travel before Taiwan can become the first Asian government to legalize same-sex marriage. The bills passed their first reading on Nov. 17, but the DPP caucus whip has said the proposed bills will next be reviewed on Dec. 26. During the review process, any legislator can introduce a competing same-sex partnership act. Even if the bills were to enter a second reading, they could still face a boycott and be removed from the agenda. The bills will only become legislation after passing three readings.
臺灣要成為亞洲第一個將同性婚姻合法化的國家,仍有一大段立法之路要走。婚姻平權三版本的民法修正案都在今年11月17日通過了立法院一讀,而民進黨黨團總召表示,下一次審議的時間為12月26日。在審查過程中,任何一位立法委員都可以提出同性伴侶法作為對案。即便三個版本的婚姻平權法案進入了二讀,也還是有可能面臨杯葛而無法排進立法院的議程中。這三個版本的法案要通過三讀才有可能正式成為法律。
As these bills went through their first reading in the legislature this month, thousands of people protesting against marriage equality, and only several hundred rallying for it, gathered on Taipei’s streets.
當三個版本的法案本月在立法院通過一讀後,上千名反對婚姻平權的民眾走上台北街頭集結,當天支持婚姻平權而上街的民眾僅數百人。
As these bills went through their first reading in the legislature this month, thousands of people protesting against marriage equality, and only several hundred rallying for it, gathered on Taipei’s streets. Opposition to marriage equality in Taiwan largely comes from small but well-organized and vocal conservative religious groups. Four people reportedly even managed to storm into the legislative meeting room, shouting that the “legislators are monsters” and would want to change Taiwan “into an AIDS island.”
這三個版本的法案本月都在立法院通過一讀,為此,上千名反對婚姻平權的民眾走上台北街頭集結,然當天上街支持婚姻平權的民眾卻只有數百人。在台灣,大部分反對婚姻平權的民眾來自規模小但組織嚴密且發言聲量大的保守宗教團體。據報載,甚至有四名反對修法的民眾嘗試要衝進立法院司法及法制委員會的會議室,高喊著:「立委都是怪獸」、台灣要變「愛滋島」。
It is hard to tell whether the legislature will pass a same-sex marriage bill this time, says Hsu of TAPCPR, partly because of internal opposition within the DPP and KMT. (The NPP caucus fully supports its bill but only holds five seats in legislature.) Tsai has reiterated that the bills are “clear evidence” marriage equality has support across all parties. But even Yu, who introduced the DPP bill, says she is only cautiously optimistic about the chances of passing a marriage equality law.
台灣伴侶權益推動聯盟理事長許秀雯表示,現在沒有辦法預知立法院是否會通過婚姻平權法案,情勢走向如何,真的很難說。因為主要政黨國民黨及民進黨的立委雖然都有提出婚姻平權民法修正案,但這兩個黨裡面也都有反對者(時代力量雖然全黨都支持婚姻平權,在立法院內也只有五個席次)。蔡英文總統數度表示,不同版本婚姻平權法案的推出,即為此議題獲得跨黨派支持的「明證」。然而,即便是推出民進黨版本婚姻平權法案的尤美女立委也表示,對於婚姻平權是否能過關成為法律,她仍只抱持審慎樂觀的態度。
Outside lawmakers’ offices, the battle for public support continues. If anything, it seems to be waning precisely at the time when it will be most needed. “More and more people are confessing that they love gays but that they don’t support same-sex marriage,” said Ko, because they believe allowing same-sex partners to get married will harm traditional family values. She is therefore unsure whether Taiwan will manage to pass a bill in the next year. At least, Ko added, “people are talking [about it], and it is not a taboo anymore.”
在立法委員的辦公室外,爭取民意支持的戰爭仍未停歇。若真要說,此時此刻婚姻平權運動最需要的是什麼?大概就是更多的支持。女人迷總編輯柯采岑表示,「有越來越多人坦白表示,他們愛同志但是不支持婚姻平權」,因為他們認為,若同性伴侶可以結婚,將損害傳統家庭價值。」她也說,不確定臺灣能否在明年內通過婚姻平權法案。她補充:「但至少,大家都開始討論(婚姻平權法案)了,這再也不是禁忌了。」
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※ 引述《roxetee (MIC)》之銘言:
: 有一題型如下:
: My mom likes ___ the house clean, so she doesn't
: like us ___ anything in our bedroom.
: (A) to keep;eating
: (B) keeping;eating
: (C) keep;eat
: (D) to keep;to eat
: 正確答案是:D
: 想請問like接to V或Ving 意思皆同,
: 那答案選 B 是不是也可以?謝謝
想說有空,就幫忙解釋一下吧?應該ok吧??
當你說to V或Ving,意思皆同,就表示你沒有感受句意的差別。
這兩種用法其實是不一樣的意思,
我們先來看字典的解釋
https://learnersdictionary.com./definition/LIKE
1. 當解做to enjoy (something) : to get pleasure from (something)
like to V = like Ving
Ex:
I like playing the guitar = I like to play the guitar
那這邊like顯然不是做這個解釋,沒有enjoy 或get pleasure的意思。
其實你把這個like換成want,有沒有發現一件神奇的事情,它居然意思雷同。
My mom likes to keep house clean = My mom wants to keep house clean
所以這個like不是翻成喜歡喔!!!!是翻成想要或傾向做什麼的意思
再來看一下字典怎麼解釋
解做to want or prefer to do something
Ex:
Despite everything, I (would) still like to think that people are basically
good.
所以既然沒有做enjoy或get pleasure,顯然你用ving就會造成句意不對。
最後的答案就是
My mom likes to keep the house clean, so she doesn't
like us to eat anything in our bedroom.
你把like換成want也是通的喔!!!媽媽想要維持乾淨,她不想要我們在房間吃東西。
to 是不可以省略的,不然意思會不一樣,即使文法上是對的。
強烈建議還是要買一本英英的Advanced Learner's dictionary,養成查字典的好習慣。
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我手頭上沒有朗文,沒辦法比較全部。
因為你點出的兩個意思
3. Approve of something 這個應該是有點審判的意味,認為是好還是壞。這跟韋氏字典
解釋有點不太一樣,但用法是一樣,也只有在這個狀況之下to V = Ving
4. Do something Regularly 做很頻繁解也不是不行,但我比較傾向這邊做
to want or to prefer to do something解會比較好。因為替代後,也說得通。
但整體上,不管你選擇哪個版本,都告訴你to V 跟 Ving的用法是不同的!!!
雖然朗文是英式,我個人比較喜歡韋氏的寫法,但這都沒有關係,純粹個人偏好。
選擇你自己喜歡的版本,不熟悉使用的都要查一下,這樣你才不會覺得模菱兩可,好像感
覺都對。
※ 編輯: charli (61.228.211.226 臺灣), 11/21/2019 12:57:08
我想很多人都提出不同看法,但是有件事要注意,Ving和To V如果兩者通用,不管哪種版
本解釋,都有喜好厭惡的意思。
這個並不是簡單動名詞或不定詞,通用的差別,這個句意不同的差別,
我知道聽起來好像都一樣。
但這句沒有任何厭惡喜好的意思,它是一定解做傾向這樣子做,所以用want代替後,一樣
意思可以通。
如果我把like 換成 get pleasure from
Mom gets pleasure from keeping house clean. She doesn't get pleasure from us
eating anything in the bedroom.
這樣句意一定行不通,最簡單的方式就是substitute,替換後看意思一不一樣。
這個解說也是跟其他版本都是大同小異,to V 和 Ving的用法意思不一樣。
※ 編輯: charli (61.228.211.226 臺灣), 11/21/2019 13:42:07
我會維持原意見,不想害到這位版友分數的問題。
而且不知道有沒有注意到,作者有用so做連接,
So是蠻強烈的因果連接詞,上下兩句要有因果相關。
做愉悅解,反而上下句關係不強烈。
有其他版友都歡迎討論,個人就先這樣。
※ 編輯: charli (61.228.211.226 臺灣), 11/21/2019 15:01:13
我看到ving + to V這種組合都出來,
這個要很小心,尤其在使用連接詞的情況下。
會造成詞性不一致,
也就是 Clause A and Clause B,這兩個子句結構應該要相似,不然會造成結構不順。
也是考試寫作會被扣分的項目,別人看到也會說你英文好像不太好。
至於我之前也講了,我不用英翻中去了解英文,在這裡中文,也只是輔助而已,其餘都是
來自字典本身解釋,字典是根據英語使用主要國家的用法來做依據,如果你不相信字典的
解釋,那我們就沒有溝通的基礎。韋氏字典都會很好心,定期更新新的用法和增加新字。
我非常希望能給大家一些至少正確的觀念,而不是沒有根據的硬凹。我想我的解釋都是來
自英英字典,並不是我自創的說法。
最後也可以寫信給韋氏的編輯來回答這題,我相信大家的英文也有一定程度,寫信應該沒
有太大問題。
※ 編輯: charli (61.228.211.226 臺灣), 11/21/2019 17:23:38
請問你用替代法了嗎?我已經解釋過如果你替代後,句意會不順,你有自己試著念念看嗎?
你的英文想必也OK,可以把你的想法給字典editor知道嗎?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/contact-us
在此如果沒有韋氏字典的編輯回覆,我們就不繼續討論了。
※ 編輯: charli (61.228.211.226 臺灣), 11/21/2019 18:03:00
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