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四年前,我請在旅途中遇到的兩位好朋友,幫我寫一段他們對我的感想。不愧是我的好朋友,所以在兩年前,我終於收到了其中一位瓦倫的回覆(我們是拖時間比賽嗎XD)。當我現在要把他們整理到書裡面時,覺得NG的片段也太好笑了,所以決定一刀未剪的放上來給大家瞧瞧,你就會知道,在路上可能會遇到什麼樣沒頭沒腦只會拼命講幹話的好朋友 :D (以下是我的翻譯,原文可以往下跳到最後)
「兩位:
我終於找到時間寫些句子給Min,這真的不是一件容易的事情,因為當我開始認真寫個三句話之後,就會忍不住接一些廢話進去。這真的不是一件容易的事,試想看看,如果你得寫一篇關於某人好話的文章,但其實你心裡清楚她其實是個騙子,因為她總是跑去搭火車?
因此,這是我第一個嘗試:
Min是一個像金一樣純的人,她充滿愛和精神,總是穿白色衣服。她沒有騎車,而是在地球上飛行了50厘米。 不...他媽的!
第二次嘗試:
親愛的人們,我必須警告您:這本書是一本幻想小說!如果作者寫了幾公里這樣的文字,很有可能實際上是公尺;當她寫單車時,她意味著火車;當她寫帳篷時,其實指的是一間三星級酒店。
第三次嘗試:
關於第一個騎單車的背包客女子從德國乘火車到臺灣的簡短故事。
我第一次遇到Min時是在德黑蘭的土庫曼大使館大樓外。她問我:「您是Vali嗎?德國人,騎單車前往烏茲別克斯坦嗎?我是Min,我也想去那裡,我們可以一起騎嗎?」
那時候,我不想結識其他騎單車的人。某方面來講,我已經聽夠別人的故事,並很享受自己一個人的旅行。自從我的旅伴朱莉從伊斯坦堡離開我之後,我便開始享受旅途中的寂靜與寂寞。所以我並不想和Min一起旅行,但我只是回答她:「好吧,...是的,好吧,如果我們都能順利拿到簽證,就可以一起騎車。」於是她問了我的聯繫方式,最後她也真的打電話給我一起去領取簽證。
我們開始一起旅行時,我的伊朗簽證只剩9天,因此我每天必須不斷地趕路,我不確定Min是否能夠跟上,因為這將會改變騎車的節奏。但是當我開始認識Min時,我發現她是一個有趣的女孩,一個只燃燒熱情就打算從慕尼黑回到臺灣的女人,充滿了理想和天真。
她只是單純的展開了計劃,在還不知道接下來會發生什麼事,也沒有任何騎乘單車和露營經驗的情況下。她帶了一個彈出式的帳篷,那種帳篷你只會為了在車上應付緊急情況而準備的帳篷;是當你可能在開高速公路回家的路上,因為太過於勞累,而決定扔出這種圓形帳篷休息一下才會用到的那種。而她的單車也沒有前袋,所以她所有的裝備都扛在單車的後面以及她的背上,因為她竟然背了一個背包!實際上,她是第一個騎單車從德國到臺灣的背包客。這就是Min令人印象深刻的一件事:她有這個想法,然後她做到了。
她得到一台贊助的單車和一些贊助的裝備,然後就拿著這些東西展開旅程。她的思考模式不像我這樣的德國人,在計劃開始之前必須擁有完美的單車和完美的裝備。對她而言,在還沒有這些條件之前就可以動身了。我永遠不會知道她何時開始計劃,以及為何要做這趟旅行,我想連她自己都不確定,即使在書裡她告訴了你們不同的故事。
所以在伊朗的時候,我們開始認識彼此,而我的內心也開始轉變,我發現和Min一起騎車真是太好了。
有一天我們還遇到了香港人Senda,傍晚我們一起紮營時,他們兩個在抱怨伊朗米飯因為不夠粘稠,所以不能用筷子吃。請想像一下,有三個人聚集在他們各自的帳篷前,在伊朗沙漠中繁星密布的星空下,而我這顆德國馬鈴薯陷入了一場關於米飯的討論之中。我不得不為自己大笑,當我告訴他們在煮飯時我加了鹽時,他們倆都非常生氣。從這種情況下,我了解到米對於Min、Senda和其他將米作為主食的人來說是非常重要的。於是,我決定再也不會煮米飯給他們,因為他們比我更知道如何煮好米飯。
之後Senda前往阿富汗,Min和我前往馬沙德(Mashad),我們就此分開直到在烏茲別克再度相見。在土庫曼斯坦的途中,我遇到了一個叫雷蒙,又名骯髒的旅行者的瘋子,我們一起前進,當我們離開土庫曼斯坦時,我們又遇到了Min,組成一個黃金三角的夢幻單車隊。雷蒙非常熱愛騎單車,是一個非常可愛的傢伙。我們三個在一起的時刻如此獨特,在一起共享每一天,只有在夜晚時,被帳篷的薄布分開。我們一起騎單車,一起出汗,一起奮鬥,一起度過美好的夜晚,同時在帳篷前烹飪美味佳餚,共享非常愉快的自由與自主的時光。當我現在回想起來,不得不承認那是我一生中最美好的時光。Min是其中很大的一部分。
如果您想進一步了解Min和她的冒險經歷,則必須購買此書。真是太神奇了,我在馬桶上翻起書頁,就在那待了兩天,直到看完為止。讀這本書就像呼吸吉爾吉斯斯坦高原的空氣一樣,就像在雷蒙身後騎車並聞到他的屁味一樣。這將是一本暢銷書,是一本令人難忘的書。絕對推薦!買吧!」
-Valentin R (一位來自德國的瘋狂自行車旅人,和Min一起旅行了兩個月)
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來來來~想要一起蹲在馬桶上兩天的請往這裡請
👉https://pse.is/minbook
🤭我個人是很好奇, 他到底蹲了兩天看什麼東西?
🤔不要說我的書沒有德文版, 連中文都還在做編輯...
🤫到底是看了什麼啊...? XDDDD
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(原文)
Hey guys,
while staying for four days in Bangkok to repair audio amplifiers for rich Thai men I finally I found the time to write some sentences about Min and it was really not easy, because when I start writing something like this, I will write bullshit after three sentences. It is really not easy. Have you ever written something about another person and you have to talk good about this person while you know she is a liar and always went by train?
So the first try:
Min is pure gold. She is full of love and spirit and always wears white clothes. She is not cycling, she is flying fifty centimeters over the earth. NOOOOO fuck it!
second try:
Dear people, I have to warn you: this book is a fantasy book! If the author writes about kilometers on the bicycles she meant probably meters. When she writes bicycle she means train, when she writes tent she means three star hotel.......NOOOOO shit!
third try:
A short story about the first backpacker woman on a bicycle who travelled from Germany to Taiwan in a train
The first time I met Min was at the Turkmen embassy building in Teheran when she encountered me and asked: „Are you Vali, the German guy travelling to Uzbekistan by bike? I am Min, I also want to go there and I wanted to ask you if we can ride together?“
At this time I didn't want to know any other cyclists, somehow I was bored to hear stories of others while I was having a great adventure by myself. I enjoyed the silence and loneliness on the road since Jule, my cycle mate, left me in Istanbul. So actually I didn't want to travel with Min in the first moment, but I just answered to Min: „Well,...yes..., ok, if we get the visas we can ride together.“ So she asked for my contact and she really called me to pick up the visas.
I only had nine days left in Iran before my visa expired so we had to go really quick and I didn't know if Min was able to catch up. It was a change in rhythm for my bike tour, but when I started to know Min I found out that she is a funny girl with a burning ambition to fulfill her aim travelling by bicycle from Munich in Germany to her home country of Taiwan. A woman full of spirit and a good portion of naivety. She just started the trip without knowing what will come and without any experience of cycling and camping before this trip. She was equipped with a pop up tent, the kind of tent you have in the car for an emergency, when you are still on the highway and you get to tired to drive home. So you have this kind of round tent that you can throw and it pops up as a tent by itself. She also didn't have front panniers (bags) on her bike, so all her equipment was in the back – and also on her back, because she was wearing a backpack! Actually she was the first backpacker on a bicycle to travel from Germany to Taiwan. And that is the impressing thing about Min: she had the idea to do this trip, so she just did. She got a sponsored bike and some kind of sponsored equipment and she just took this and started the tour. She didn't think the German way like me who had to have a perfect bicycle and perfect equipment before I started. No, she just started without any spare parts for the bicycle, without any experience in cycling and camping. I never found out when she started to have this idea and why and probably she doesn't know herself even if she tells you different in this book.
So in the time in Iran we got to know each other and my mood was turning and I found out that it is nice to cycle with Min.
On day we also met Senda, an Hongkongnesian guy and in the evening Min and him were complaining about the Iranian rice, because it is not sticky so you cannot eat it with chop sticks. So you must imagine three people in front of their tents under a really nice Iranian starry sky in the desert and me as a German potato in the middle of this rice dicussion. I had to laugh for myself a lot and when I told them that I put salt in the rice when I cook it, the both got really angry. From this situation I learnt that rice must be something really important for Min, Senda and other people that eat rice as staple food. This night I decided to never cook any rice for them, because the knew it always better in terms of rice.
Senda went on to Afghanistan and Min and me went on to Mashad and we divided there to meet up in Uzbekistan again. On the way through Turkmenistan I met a crazy guy called Raimon a.k.a. Dirty Traveller and we went on together and when we left Turkmenistan we met Min again forming the golden triangle of cyclism, a dream team. Raimon is really passionate about cycling and a really lovely dude. We three had so much unique moments together, sharing the whole day together, only the nights we were divided by the thin cloth of our tents. We cycled together, we sweat together, we fighted together, we had nice evenings together while cooking nice dishes in front of our tents and having a really good time of freedom and self-determination. When I think back to this time now I have to admit that it was somehow the best time of my life. And Min was a big part of it.
If you want to know more about Min and her adventures you have to buy this book. It is totally amazing, I read it on the toilet and stayed there for two days until I finished reading. Reading this book is like breathing in the air of the Kyrgizian Plateau, it is like smelling the fart of Raimon while riding close behind him. It is just a best seller. It is the book that takes you and never leaves you. Absolute recommendation! Buy it!
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#專業的來了
#口譯真是不簡單
🌐 #葉克膜 與 #活摘器官 的翻譯紛擾🌐
小編截取一段 #葛特曼 先生與多個翻譯版本中英對照的內容,以下提出比較,請看倌參考指教!
內容排列如下,
✅小編耳朵聽到的英文原文
A)是現場口譯版本
B)是民報版本
C)是ptt鄉民版本
D)是小編我自己的版本
✅ I don't put words in people's mouth.
A) 我不會講人家沒講過的話。
D) 我不會誘導別人講我要的話。
⭕️ 感謝網友建議這句話 #直譯,我不會把話硬塞到人家嘴巴。還有一個古典的 #意譯,我不會張冠李戴、搬弄是非。
⭕️小編認為翻譯要能連貫及表達正確,除了前後文與脈絡很重要以外,語言邏輯也不可忽略,最後是策略決定了譯文風格。
🔹我不會講人家沒講過的話🔜
換句話說,我講的都是人家講過的話
🔹我不會把話硬塞到人家嘴巴🔜
換句話說,都是人家主動講的、不是我栽贓人家;或是,對方完全沒有說
🔹做完以上語言邏輯練習,再來是前後文訓練
▪️前文是記者問,是否柯醫師親口跟你講的?
▪️後文是葛特曼開始解釋中間人的角色。
▪️所以到底這整段翻譯為何?請看下面的小結⭕️
✅ The best description I can come out with for the documents we both agreed on, me and Dr. Ko, was middleman. He was a middleman.
A) 我跟柯文哲多次通信後,我們達成共識就是,他在這件事情的角色上是中間人。
D) 從這些我們都同意的文件看來,最能描述柯醫師的一句話就是,他是中間人。
⭕️以下小結前面這兩段話的
前提是蘋果日報記者發問:您說柯醫師已經在大陸為他的病人安排好診療,請問這部分是柯醫師親口跟你講的嗎?
葛特曼回答:柯醫師並沒有親口講,#他沒有講的我不會說他有。然而從這些我們都同意過的文件看來,最能描述柯文哲的一句話就是,他是中間人。
✅ There are three ways that Dr. Ko was valuable to a conference like the one we just saw.
A) 在器官活摘這件事情上面,柯文哲他扮演了至少三個角色。
❌雖然這句譯文幾乎是整個記者會葛特曼對柯醫師的指控,然而在這裡小編認為有 #超譯 的嫌疑。這裡主詞不是器官活摘,”至少”三個角色好像暗示還有更多,口譯一定是太緊張了~ 另外,”扮演三個角色”這樣的譯風還是很不錯的。
B)柯文哲對中國那場研討會上,至少提供了3個面向的價值。
❌咦、哪來的至少?還有第四、第五嗎?
⭕️英文的a, one, the 的差別主要是在指定或泛稱,這裡的 a 沒有指定名目與數量,one 是指器官移植研討會,the one是限定葛特曼剛剛出示的2008年在中國的那場。
C) 柯醫生(可能)有三種方式對於像是我們剛剛看到的研討會有價值
❌這種中文語句完全不通順。
D) 例如在我們剛看的那樣的研討會中,柯醫師有三種價值。
✅ These are rather monstrous people that I was going through. There are a lot of terrible people in that conference。It's like pirates or something.
A) 在2008年的研討會上有許多很不好的人。
D) 研討會上有很多差勁的人,這些人人面獸心,有如強盜還是什麼的一樣。
✅ The first way of value, he was a conduit, potential conduit to Taiwanese patients. Foreign organ tourists who will pay more for organs than the Chinese person will.
A) 第一點,柯文哲扮演中間人的角色,他讓台灣比較有錢的所謂器官旅客可以前往中國。
❌ 有錢是跟誰比啊?器官旅客應該只有需求、沒有貧富。
B)第一,他是一個潛在的砝碼(potential counterweight)讓一些願意「付更多」的台灣病人,更加有意願前往中國。
❌ 很抱歉 #counterweight 在這裡語意不通之外,其實完全聽錯葛特曼的用字。
❌ 付更多?不是說好有折扣價嗎?😝
❌ will 在這裡跟意願無關,是需求。
C)
The first way is valuable that is ,he is a conduit, potential conduit to taiwnese patient , for organ tourism who will pay more for organs than chinese patient will.
第一種價值呢,他是個"溝通橋梁",台灣病患的"潛在""溝通橋梁",對於那些願意為了器官比中國病患付更多錢的器官旅客來說
⭕️ #conduit 這個字很有意思、發音也很好聽,是導管、管道的意思。不是很容易聽出來的單字,恭喜這位ptt鄉民的實力!不過,小編認為譯為管道會比溝通橋樑來的好,因為conduit 的意思已經清楚明顯、不需要贅字形容或延伸、更不需要(“ ”)限定。potential在這裡是形容詞,表示潛在、可能存在,不是名詞表示潛力實力。
❌ #for_organ_tourism 是錯聽,也是文法錯誤、也不是習慣用法。還有鄉民的中英譯文也不一致!#Foreign_organ_tourist 才是葛特曼說的話,因為上一句話說完時有明顯語氣的結束,且下一句是完整的複合子句。另外,一般習慣用法是 #organ_tour器官旅遊,或是 #medical_tourism醫療觀光。
D)第一種價值是,柯文哲是個管道,透過這個管道有可能接觸到台灣的病人。外國器官遊客比中國病人付出更高價錢買器官。
✅ The second way that he was important to them was that He was selling Medtronic ECMO products which are some of the best in the world. They're from America. Very very good company in Minnesota.
A) 第二個角色他作為推銷員的角色,他把美敦力生產的葉克膜器材賣到中國大陸去, 美敦力它製造非常先進的機器。
B)第二,他將美敦力(Medtronic)所製造的ECMO推銷給中國。
C) 第二種方式是,他正在銷售美敦力ECMO產品,這是世界最好的,在美國明尼蘇達州非常好的公司
❌正在銷售?很抱歉、這估狗翻譯的痕跡很明顯~這位鄉民偷懶哦!
D) 第二種價值是,柯醫師會賣美敦力葉克膜器材,這是世界級機器、美國製造的,公司很不錯、在明尼蘇達州。
🌐#大概最有爭議的就是接下來這段了🌐
✅ The third way was that he was teaching them ECMO techniques, and this is the worst because it created, whether you meant to or not. It was creating perverse incentives to kill Falungong, #Uyghurs, #Tibetans, #House_Christians.
⭕️ 後記:這段話的最後這三個字是在葛特曼說話結束、語氣漸弱的結尾,真的很不容易聽清楚了,其他人沒有版本也是這個原因。小編一再考慮是否切掉、是否就我現有的聽譯呈現、幫忙確認的英語母語人士有時間差,在考慮第一時間提供版本給大家的急迫性,小編體力下降腦力燒盡天空已亮起的考量下,決定有什麼貼什麼、讓出機會讓大家來訂正。果真,往上再出力幫忙修正的高手也來了,感謝🙏
A) 第三個,柯文哲扮演的角色,他扮演導師的角色,教導中國如何使用葉克膜技術 #在這個器官活摘上面,這個是我認為最邪惡的部分。
❌這裡的爭議是,葛特曼是否直接說柯醫師教葉克膜用在活摘器官嗎?🙀
B)第三,柯文哲教導中國如何使用葉克膜的技術,也是最糟的部分,無論柯有意無意,這 #助長(perverse incentive)中國殺害法輪功民眾。
❌ 雖然perverse incentives 不是直接對譯成助長,到底誰助長中國殺害法輪功,這可是葛特曼沒提到的問題。民報的版本很通順,就差在助長。
C)
The third way that he was teaching them ECMO technique ,and this is the worst because it creative, whether #he #mentally or not, he was create a #provoke incentive to kill Falun Gong #paticent
第三種方式是他教他們ECMO技術,這是最糟糕的,因為這創造了一個,#無論他是否意識到,他製造了一個 #良好環境,讓他們殺死法輪功的 #病患
❌很可惜ptt鄉民這句錯太多了
❌柯製造良好環境、讓中國殺人?
❌法輪功身體很好內、怎會是病患?
D) 第三種價值是,柯醫師教授葉克膜的技術。這個最糟糕,因為不管有意或無心,#已經造成一種帶有殺傷力的反效果。也就是葉克膜技術被利用來殺害法輪功、維吾爾人、藏人、地下天主教信徒。
❌ 小編對於 perverse incentives 原來版本是「這造成了一種不正當的鼓勵」。在小編睡飽了後、考察網友建議 perverse incentives 是反效果,改了譯文為 #已經造成一種帶有殺傷力的反效果。至於成衣業者使用「誘因」這個譯文,很抱歉這個用詞不正確也不中立。
❌小編感謝網友留言訂正維吾爾族人Uyghurs 以及 House Christians天主教(或是新教更正確)地下教會的人。英語母語人會發音為 /ˈwiːɡər/ ,小編聽譯覺得是wingers,母語人士也確認。雖然整句話還是怪,但時間壓迫下沒有空再做確認因此誤用。是housed 還是house,在沒有確認下決定原稿釋出,請大家指正。
#口譯真的壓力很大向口譯致敬
#小編心得報告 翻譯永遠沒有完美,翻譯也永遠值得考究,口譯筆譯(惺惺相惜)所面對的條件都是不同挑戰,小編無惡意批評其他譯作,很多時候只有風格不同,不一定都是對錯。以上各版本及網友不斷留言的版本與註釋(正確嚴謹與否看倌判斷,小編對所有留言保持開放歡迎參與),除了提供各個面向,也同時顯露出更多的缺口。小編手上沒有第九章資料,完全根據記者會的聽譯,基於這是高爭議性議題,且壁壘分明的立場參雜其中,小編秉持專業譯者的態度,完全忠於所聽所說的原文做出專業水準的呈現。小編感謝所有支持的朋友與所有人的關注!
🌐 這一夜我們都是譯者💪🌐
來源-
B)民報版本
http://www.peoplenews.tw/…/a9564753-53bd-4b76-81ee-b861d304…
C)ptt鄉民版本
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/HatePolitics/M.1538483274.A.579.html
#柯文哲 #屠殺
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