看《蒂姆.沃克:美妙事物》特展,
如果有時間,請一定、一定、一定要聽導覽(10:30、13:30),
才不至於錯過太多細節。
粗略地解釋一下這個展的緣起:
時尚攝影師Tim Walker,
在倫敦維多利亞與亞伯特博物館(V&A)中逛館藏、尋找靈感,
觸發點可能是件卷軸、是把鑰匙、是個盒子,
說不準是什麼,
總之觸發了Tim哥的腦迴路,
他再將奇思幻想告訴場景設計Shona,
由她把景喬好給哥拍。
(弄得每位看展攝影師都好想有Shona😆)
攝影作品本身的故事之外,
因為疫情關係,
館方與英國跨海連線布展的過程甘苦同樣吸引我,
(解說板內容都是Tim哥寫的,然後中文版格式完全比照英文版)
展出時間到明年2月初,
請來台南奇美博物館看。
#蒂姆沃克美妙事物
同時也有9部Youtube影片,追蹤數超過7,340的網紅WataruB,也在其Youtube影片中提到,令人聞之色變的究極形態霸氣登場!這次影片還是老西主題,應該是會持續一陣子,本期內容主要是統整洛克人X3的西格瑪,包含聖徒西格瑪、凱薩西格瑪,並介紹兩個形態在洛克人X3當中的各項特色與招式細節,當然這次也有一些個人的實測內容,想看更多洛克人X系列角色介紹的朋友們,訂閱給他按下去就對啦! ※9:19有錯...
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【終於結束的起點】
今天收到一個讓我總算是可以放下心中大石的包裹(嗎?)~總之,我拿到《Three Kingdoms Redux 三國得志》的樣品了,目前的成果看起來還不錯,傳說中的大盒套小盒的俄羅斯套娃收納法也夠瘋狂~這真的除了菜鳥這隻神經病以外,沒有人可以幹得出來了~
其實連傳說小妹妹也不知道,我上個禮拜還在弄【官方細則】的排版。這遊戲的工作量讓我有種無限迴圈的黑洞感,我記得那時候我甚至跟菜鳥說:『我沒有力氣看有沒有錯字喔,你要自己看喔~有錯字我不管~』其實除了工作量很繁複,然後前前後後改了很多次,而且是A改B,後來B又改C,最後又改成A的那種~讓我懷疑自己是不是進了勞改集中營。但說真的讓我最心累的,是那種不自由感,很多地方都不能按照我想弄的弄,因為光是要讓三間出版社都點頭就已經弄得焦頭爛額了~
最後關於菜鳥,大家可能以為我又要罵他了。不,其實,他是三間出版社裡面最好講話,被我最好奴役,還可以被我罵到臭頭的那一位~這也是為什麼每次我氣歸氣,罵歸罵,但還是有努力在幫他宣傳~咳咳,所以宣傳要來了!
最後再說一次,這絕對不是我排版的作品當中最滿意的那一個,但絕對是最累的!而且再怎麼樣,也比英文版漂亮許多!官方細則,大盒包小盒,這些也都是英文版沒有的!而且也真的好玩!如果你在找尋一款三人的策略遊戲!那就是它了-《Three Kingdoms Redux 三國得志》!
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當老闆和客戶把你當許願池,你要如何知道哪個功能必須先做呢?
在設計產品上,藍圖相當重要,「產品藍圖」可大可小,可以大到未來三五年,大方向是每年要做什麼功能,小到未來三個禮拜,每個禮拜要做什麼事情。
不論如何,「產品藍圖」的目標,是要希望團隊知道,他現在在做的東西,到底最後要成就些什麼?現在做的這個小螺絲釘,最後到底是大願景裡的哪個環節。
每個階段的藍圖,扮演著成就下一個階段的重要角色,一個好的一年「產品藍圖」,絕對不是兩個六個月的藍圖連在一起就算,而是仔細地想過,在這未來六個月做的這些東西、學到了哪些經驗,會解鎖或是影響下一個六個月的藍圖。
你可能會問「那我要怎麼知道,要放什麼功能在藍圖上呢?」
此時,找出投資報酬率最高的功能。
可以靠經驗評估,做哪個功能報酬率比較高,或是請數據分析師,幫你做個商業個案分析,推估一下如果做了這個功能,大概可以多賺多少錢,假如公司沒有數據分析師,那麼商業數據分析的工作,就是要自己來啦!
舉個例子,比如說,你網站以前沒有英文版,但你發現有百分之十的流量來自英語系國家,而且競爭對手的英文網站流量成長很快,於是你推估,如果做了英文版,應該可以增加百分之十的流量。
另外一個你想做的功能,是改進「分享給朋友」這個功能,因為你發現,現在很多人主動分享你們的網站在社群媒體上,你覺得如果加個「分享給朋友」的功能應該會增加流量,你發現,現在透過分享來的流量已經有百分之二十,用戶訪談也說希望分享的用戶體驗更好一點,如果讓分享更容易,數據分析師推估,應該會多百分之二十的流量。
接著你問了工程師,他說做分享只要花一周,但做英文版要一個月,那當然,如果你的目標是增加流量,你肯定優先做分享的功能。
很多時候,個案分析當然有點主觀,畢竟是根據數字和經驗判斷推論出來的,不見得精確,但你可以抓三個可能的區間,分別列出:最糟可以增加多少流量、最有可能增加多少流量、最樂觀大概增加多少流量。
如果是高報酬、低成本,當然立刻做;如果是高報酬、高成本,那就是賭一把,可以等高報酬、低成本做完再來做;如果是低報酬、高成本千萬別做;如果是低報酬、低成本,那就有時間再做。
所以在規劃產品藍圖時,首先要確保的就是對公司有價值的功能要優先排進藍圖之中,而不是一股腦把所有的功能都排進去。
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令人聞之色變的究極形態霸氣登場!這次影片還是老西主題,應該是會持續一陣子,本期內容主要是統整洛克人X3的西格瑪,包含聖徒西格瑪、凱薩西格瑪,並介紹兩個形態在洛克人X3當中的各項特色與招式細節,當然這次也有一些個人的實測內容,想看更多洛克人X系列角色介紹的朋友們,訂閱給他按下去就對啦!
※9:19有錯字,損「血」打成損「寫」,特此勘誤。
洛克人X3最終關卡
本次整理以單機系列作品為主(不包含其他衍生作品,如方塊遊戲、格鬥遊戲、手機遊戲等)
※頻道影片均為親自遊玩
※授權使用方式也清楚揭露
※希望大家都能以此為標竿,檢視自我,做人真的不要嚴以律人,寬以待己阿
聲明:影片資料是採綜合彙整及個人實測後補充,無完全取自某單一網站
相關資料可參考下方說明:
本集相關資料來源參考:
https://bit.ly/3fkGU68
https://bit.ly/3w3zsSI
https://bit.ly/3f0CHEf
https://bit.ly/3qZ85X6
部分補充則是從遊戲中自行遊玩取得
資訊若有不完整或錯誤煩請留言指教
卡普空影像二創政策:
日文版:http://bit.ly/3pwrv4b
英文版:http://bit.ly/37rWdVU
中文說明:https://bit.ly/3dowzVy
本次各項素材使用方式:
翻譯使用:
為我自行翻譯並潤飾。歡迎有需要的人直接取用,無須告知(不嫌我日文差的話)。
FANDOM介紹文案參考資料來源使用方式:參考後改寫、校訂或補充,以致符合影片主題。
音樂使用:僅使用遊戲中的BGM,並且依本次主題搭配,亦無直接擷取獨立放置。
其他補充:
若由我個人補充的遊戲資料或資訊部分,可以CC授權條款自由取用(你可單獨擷取部分資訊,去做屬於你自己的新影片,就目前創作圈共識,遊戲資料的發現,基本上是一件既定事實,沒有人可以獨佔,而對我來說,只要能幫助下一個創作者讓他製作出新創作影片,也算是功德一件)。
真正不可以擅自引用的,是個人主觀上的心得、經驗、或編輯過後的影像內容或素材
所以如果你直接盜取影片,再上傳到其他平台,是禁止的。
我知道網路上有一些非常小的文字型部落客或是遊戲玩家會認為,密技是我測試出來的、或是我一個一個去徵求其他玩家的同意並收錄的、攻略是我發現的,沒有我的同意,任何人都不得擅自使用,雖然說這種心情或許可以被理解(可能他是靠流量謀生的,想要保護自己的實測財產),但這卻是不合理且沒搞清楚狀況的錯誤觀念;遊戲密技與攻略之所以不會被法律保護,這是因為遊戲本身就是需要玩家去玩,密技與攻略是一個增加遊戲樂趣或加速破關進程的操作,並非是一個智慧財產要保護的標的,因此密技的應用,若被公開了,不管是誰發現的,誰最先開始討論的,收錄的,本來就是可以被其他玩家拿去實測,或基於這些密技,再添加新的玩法與測試,這道理應該不難理解,因此如果只是使用到其收錄的密技(或剛好部分雷同),就要被汙衊成抄襲仔,實在是說不太過去(當有利益衝同時,採取這種汙名化競爭對手的網路操作,是不難理解,但有必要嗎?我不是靠搞洛克人維生的,把我視為競爭對手幹嘛?很多影片都是綜合自己玩出來的親測結果產製而成,純粹是把這個系列當成影視作品在製作,再分享給有興趣的玩家看而已,再者表現形式也不只是單純展示畫面或照抄文字資料,我是有加入自己的改寫、改編、美編設計、親玩、剪輯等要素,不懂之前在炒作這個點的意義在哪?)。
老實講就法律上是可以提告妨礙名譽(正當的使用密技測試,卻被說是抄襲的話),只是想說若是同好,真的不想這樣去小題大作,大舉告人,畢竟我個人信奉的價值就是以和為貴,良善交流,以謙和前提來待人處事,我知道我無法用這種比較寬宏的道德價值,去要求每一個人,有些小部落客就算依法無據,也非常保護自己,這些我都尊重(只是讓人感覺無奈),但為了避免不必要的紛爭,我想我還是依照官方的授權使用規範來製作影片以及使用素材會比較好,然後把自己怎麼運用素材的方式,都清楚揭示,這樣一來也可以比較沒有爭議,這也是為何後來我影片說明欄,都會把相關使用材料標示清楚的原因。
也提醒未來有想要製作遊戲影片的玩家,盡量是使用官方提供的影音授權規範來創作,會比較沒有問題,至於碰到有人來說,你用到他收錄的密技的這種偶發事件,甚至想用這個理由來檢舉你的,我是認為禮貌上可以去溝通一下,如果對方堅持持續不講理,建議還是把聲明寫清楚,讓對方知道他於法無據,若再繼續以此借題發揮,騷擾、搞公審,你也會採取其他行動(因為於法無據的檢舉,YT也是不會受理),以上是一些關於製作遊戲影片時的經驗談,有需要的可以了解看看。
本次節錄遊戲為PS版洛克人X3
#聖徒西格瑪
#洛克人X3
#凱薩西格瑪
セイントシグマ/Saint Sigma、カイザーシグマ/Kaiser Sigma
00:00經典片頭
00:06片頭音樂Megaman X3 [PSX] music sigma 1st
00:35洛克人X3-聖徒西格瑪
05:50洛克人X3-凱薩西格瑪
09:59洛克人X3-西格瑪病毒
11:48片尾音樂Megaman X3 [PSX] music sigma 2nd
12:02經典再會片尾
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畫面為親自遊玩取得,遊戲內容、畫面版權均為卡普空所有。
片頭設計:蛙他露B
影片剪輯:蛙他露B
影片特效:蛙他露B
腳本設計:蛙他露B
遊戲遊玩:蛙他露B
翻譯校正:蛙他露B
字幕製作:蛙他露B
音樂著作權:CAPCOM所有
遊戲著作權:CAPCOM所有
片頭音效:
https://bit.ly/2ZuFSuY
歌曲名:優美的遊戲鈴聲
歌手:免費音效
所屬專輯:未知
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我可能錯了英文版 在 大麻煩翻譯組JackO Youtube 的精選貼文
#Skullgirls #BigBand #Story
Skullgirls是一款2D平面格鬥遊戲,故事圍繞在Skull Heart(骷髏之心)這項神奇的物品上,有許願的功能,但只要許願的人心不夠純潔,願望則會扭曲,遊戲中講述各角色自己,以及與Skullgirl所發生的故事
影片中許多部分並未完全照英文字面意思翻譯,為了能盡量淺顯易懂,並傳達本作故事的劇情與要素,會在一些地方稍做調整讓[中文]看起來能夠更加流暢
並且 所有遊戲內的特殊名詞與姓名皆不翻譯
為了保留最原始的發音
並使觀眾能更清楚辨識哪些是遊戲裡有其他含意的特殊詞
所有特殊名詞與姓名皆保留英文
如有任何問題歡迎留言告知
-----名詞與註解-----
Big Band講話總有種老式偵探片的主角自白的感覺XD
有很多說法都很少見,卻也超有味道的,大家可以特別去留意看看喔!
0:38 "be on the take" 是有收賄或貪污的意思喔
1:43 "lit(light) up like a Christmas tree" 是一種還蠻有畫面的比喻方式
「像顆點亮的聖誕樹一樣」,聖誕樹很閃亮嘛~所以這個比喻是指光彩奪目的東西
或用來形容一個人笑得燦爛,表現出開心的樣子等等
2:02 Big Band說 "maybe catch a show"
"catch a show" 算是蠻普遍的說法,就是去找場表演看
動詞用catch(抓住)所以沒聽過的人可能會覺得蠻新奇的
那對應下一句
Cerebella說 "The show caught you!"
就是在反過來用Big Band的說詞回嗆他
Cere知道Big Band只是在找借口隨便忽悠,所以才反嗆說我抓到你想搞事了
這種恰好對應到特殊說法的回嗆在Skullgirls裡面還蠻常見的
例如Valentine戰鬥開場的嗆聲"Time for your physical." 就有機會觸發Cerebella的"Time for your curtain call." (押韻
2:21 Big Band說的"This just ain't my scene." 這種說法Eliza在她的個人劇情裡面也講過
簡單來說就是「這不是我的場」,看當下情境來解讀,可以是「我不參與這種場的」或是「我不是要找這個」等意思
3:58 "One-man band? More like one-man army!"
Big Band的身體被改造成包含許多樂器的武器,所以說Big Band是一人樂隊完全正確XD
One-man army是指那種像超人一樣的戰鬥人員,一人抵一支軍隊
在「降士神通」這部卡通裡,就有人說裡面的「愛和大將軍」覺醒後有如一人大軍(英文版用的是一樣的說法
4:24 我稍微解釋一下為啥Big Band會說這是圈套
因為當初他會來調查賭場就是因為Theonite訊號,顯然這龐大的訊號肯定是人為的
因為數據上來說這種程度的訊號天然的來源一定是Skullgirl,但他被調虎離山了
4:55 從台詞可以看出Double知道Big Band是曾經差點死掉的人被改造成的半機械兵器
5:03 之所以沒有直接翻譯成「變身成你的樣子」是為了配合原文,Double說 "cloaked in your form."
cloak是斗篷,當動詞通常是指披上某樣東西,所以Double的說法其實更接近是「披著偽裝成你的外皮」
6:05 很棒的嗆聲OuOb,我們在畫面上註解了
8:30 Peacock說的"exit stage left"是一種很少見又很有趣的說法
就是「在不被注意的情況下偷偷溜走」的概念,蠻俏皮的,很符合Peacock的人設跟說話方式
9:49 Peacock本身就是個很神奇的人,雖然她也是改造士兵,但她自己把自己的攻擊方式變得非常卡通化,詳細可以去看我們的Peacock個人劇情翻譯
所以這裡她才這麼說
(Peacock真正的能力其實只有打開空間傳送跟手上的眼睛雷射,其他花樣都是她自己延伸發明的)
10:37 從這裡可以看出Big Band其實很想退出第一線了,更可以從他片尾的自述聽出這點
10:58 "can't swing a dead cat in 某地點 without hitting 某事物"
沒辦法在某個地方甩一隻死掉的貓咪而不去打到...,這種說法最一開始的典故只是用來形容空間很狹小
例如巷子這類的地方,如果有其他人在你沒辦法甩一隻死貓而不去碰到其他人,所以後來被拿來抽換詞面就是形容很容易碰見... 或是空間很小
11:05 Tinman(錫人)其實就是綠野仙蹤那個錫人沒錯,這個名詞後來常常被拿來說機器人或是外表有金屬的人
外貌上來說Big Band確實蠻金屬外皮的
之所以會被誤會也可能是因為Medici底下的怪人也不少... Medici跟Labs底下的改造士兵都還蠻奇特的... 可以說是能輕鬆看出來
13:01 Irvin說的"spare you the song and dance." 就是不跟你長篇大論或是細細解釋了
13:55 又是個少見的說法,"Can it"其實就是類似好了閉嘴的意思
15:17 Skullgirls是少女在向Skull Heart許願完畢之後會變成的東西,隨著當事人逐漸失去自我意識,Skullgirl就會越強
19:10 ~ 19:15
"IS here" 跟 "WAS here"
非常棒的英文口語例子,只有一個字的時態改變就能非常棒的呈現出整體意思
這在英文裡面非常常見喔!
20:01 "The Last Hope"的更多資訊可以看我們頻道的Skullgirls Mobile Valentine Origin劇情影片
那個影片也有解釋為何Valentine選擇叛變
23:13 "Nothing personal" 這個說法我也很推薦大家記一下,非常常見
字面上的意思就是「沒有私事」,很適合撂狠話的時候說「我就公事公辦而已喔」的概念
25:33 又是一個很棒的雙關梗,因為當下必須看懂才有趣所以我補在螢幕上了
26:19 同上
26:42 同上上
27:39 這句話真的超有老式電影自白的味道的
"It's not what it used to be, but neither am I."「這裡不再是以往的樣子,但我也一樣」
27:46
感謝Bilibili的觀眾「及川黑阿婆」告知
Peacock是說"Defective Comics" (殘缺人士漫畫集)
(因為Peacock跟Big Band其實都有損失身體器官並被機械取代)
這樣一來後面Big Band說我不想搶妳風頭的玩笑就更有意思了
影片內容非一人完成,十分感謝與我一同製作此影片的朋友們
遊戲官方網站:
http://skullgirls.com/
Skullgirls Steam網站:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/245170/Skullgirls/
希望大家能多多支持我們翻譯組!
訂閱頻道追蹤更多我們的影片!
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我可能錯了英文版 在 WataruB Youtube 的最佳貼文
聲明:影片資料是採綜合彙整及個人實測後補充,無完全取自某單一網站,相關資料可參考下方說明:
本集資料:
https://bit.ly/2Fh8jpP
https://bit.ly/3nL49Im
部分補充則是從遊戲中自行遊玩取得 資訊若有不完整或錯誤煩請留言指教
卡普空影像二創政策:
日文版:http://bit.ly/3pwrv4b
英文版:http://bit.ly/37rWdVU
中文說明:https://bit.ly/3dowzVy
本次示範遊戲版本為PS2版本
本遊戲另有NGC(Nintendo GameCube)版本(我漏打在影片底下的發售平台部份了)
說一下心得:
做這一類影片最困難的點,其實不是找資料(不是說「資料」不重要),而是「找畫面」,畫面必須親自玩出來,就像導演般,要等一個鏡頭、一個畫面的出現,有時會耗很多時間,也非常耗工,這也是為何做遊戲影片,其實沒有想像中容易,其他錄製遊戲、設計排版、剪接跟美感,又是另一項對創作者專業技術的考驗,如果沒有熱情,很難堅持,所以你的鼓勵是必要的,訂閱按讚跟分享,就是最大的支持。
再來必須強調的是,本頻道幾乎所有影片引述之資料都是採綜合資料參考,會列出資料來源,但恕無法一一窮盡或告知,實務上沒有人這樣做,就像寫論文引述資料,僅需列出資料來源但無須再取得作者或收錄者同意(除非該資料,包含營業機密資料、個資法保護之資料、或有個人肖像圖像資料等,那另當別論)。
另外,影片不會因為資料引述(多半資料是整理自綜合資料來源,非單一來源),就有所謂的正版不正版之分(這個說法真的極其荒謬,說到底真的正版是卡普空吧?!),影片是我個人創作,絕對具備創作正當性。
我影片中的資料都歡迎引用(標註來源即可,且無須獲得我親口授權同意,如果你真的忘記標註,我也不會去留言罵你,或發文公審,只要不是盜片就好),完全由我發現,或由我綜合資料整理的,或是我引述之資料來源的國外社群,都可以參考(只要是合法、合理使用即可),資料共享,創作多元,這才是正確的價值,這個社會才會進步,也才不會把自己格局做小,以此共勉。
我個人立場就是讓不認識這遊戲的人,喜愛這遊戲,讓已經認識這遊戲的人,可以再重溫它,之後,我可能也開始要轉型做其他東西了,所以真心喜歡洛克人系列,希望它更好,要把盤擴大才是。
00:00蛙他露經典片頭
00:07片頭音樂Mega Man X Command Mission - Epsilon, 1st Movement
00:27絕對零度小檔案
00:42作戰體質強化
00:58武器能量回升增量
01:18專屬主武器強化近戰火力
01:45使用注意對空攻擊失誤率高
02:04專屬副武器近身三連擊
03:09使用注意對空攻擊失誤率高
03:24攻擊自帶水屬性
04:03水屬抗性提升
04:27異常狀態解除
05:12免疫異常狀態
05:56迴避率、閃躲提升
06:56逃跑成功率提升
07:14具備霸體能力
08:09使用注意傑洛會暴走
09:03觸發攻擊災厄武術
12:14片尾音樂Mega Man X Command Mission - Maverick Hunters Fate
12:23經典蛙他露片尾
#洛克人X系列
#洛克人X指令任務
#絕對零度傑洛
片頭設計:蛙他露B
鏡面設計:蛙他露B
影片剪輯:蛙他露B
影片特效:蛙他露B
腳本設計:蛙他露B
遊戲遊玩:蛙他露B
字幕製作:蛙他露B
音樂著作權:CAPCOM所有
遊戲著作權:CAPCOM所有
《洛克人X 指令任務》
ロックマンX コマンドミッション
Rockman X Command Mission
Mega Man X: Command Mission
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洪蘭的劣譯已經引起譯界公憤,有些沒在PTT出沒的高手
也加入掃蕩的工作了。Google+ 「譯人譯事」的格主,
上回把蘋果的相關報導翻譯為英文後,又在「語言本能」的
作者序、第一章揪出了33個錯誤。加上安徽醫科大學的老師尹力
所列舉的15個錯誤,洋洋灑灑共48個,都把它們翻為英語,
並寄給作者 Steven Pinker 教授了。希望英語世界的科普作者
也都能瞭解問題有多嚴重,不要再讓洪蘭糟蹋他們的作品了。
「譯人譯事」的格主希望有用FB或Google+ 的朋友能幫忙轉發出去,
形成社會壓力,不但肅清洪蘭既有的劣譯,更要讓她不能繼續製造受害者。
Google +:譯人譯事
https://plus.google.com/110896187168631282520/posts/5Nn7MHXZy12
Facebook:
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PDF: 語言本能
https://ppt.cc/cp3k
PDF: 蘋果的報導
https://ppt.cc/8rYT
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譯人譯事
洪蘭翻譯門 - 上午6:58
48 translation errors found in Steven Pinker's The Language Instinct,
translated by Daisy Lan Hung (洪蘭)/洪蘭譯《語言本能》(大陸版)中的 48 個誤
譯(英文說明)
洪蘭翻譯、Steven Pinker 原著的《語言本能》,光是作者序及第一章就至少有
33 個翻譯問題嚴重程度從不可思議的愚蠢大錯、硬傷,到漏譯細節、
原意稍被曲解的小錯,應有盡有。
另從第二章起隨便翻看,還可隨意找到 15 個錯誤(其中有的來自大陸教師/讀者尹力的
披露
(https://www.amazon.cn/review/RC93VT754YTV6/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#RC93VT754YTV6)
。
全部 48 處大小誤譯記錄於此,每個錯誤均回譯成英文,讓英語讀者理解該錯誤的嚴重程
度。
已去信原作者 Pinker 教授 告知這些誤譯並敦促他正視此問題的嚴重性,各位可以不必
再寄給他相同的內容。但歡迎關心台灣翻譯的中英文讀者轉載、討論。
誤譯列表連結在此(無需登入 Google,任何人皆可閱讀):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCqYZEkgoDOku-BgR1AS5ut670M8wbo3d7r0sSNnXKg/edit?usp=sharing*
以下將文件內容複製一遍:
This is a list of 48 translation errors found in 語言本能/语言本能, the 2004
Simplified Chinese version of Steven Pinker's The Language Instinct, 1994.
Daisy Lan Hung is the translator. Hung’s translation problems in Thinking,
Fast and Slow (快思慢想) by author Daniel Kahneman is recently reported by
several Taiwanese newspapers. You can read one of the news articles here.
The first 33 translation errors are found in the Preface and Chapter 1 of The
Language Instinct alone. For good measure, another 15 errors found by
exploring the rest of the book are added to the list. In each numbered
error, the relevant original English text is shown, followed by "->" and then
by the English "back-translation" of Hung's Chinese, in order to give English
readers an idea of what the problem is. The page number shown belongs to the
Chinese book. Explanatory notes are placed in {...}.
The document you are reading is viewable by anyone with the link. You don't
need a Google login. Feel free to share this link with anyone you think
might be interested in the translation issues:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CCqYZEkgoDOku-BgR1AS5ut670M8wbo3d7r0sSNnXKg/edit?usp=sharing
#1 Preface, p.14
[For students unaware of the science of language and mind,
{note: in the Chinese, "the science of language" and "the mind", i.e., "the
science" does not apply to "the mind"}]
#2 Preface, p.14
[or worse, burdened with memorizing word frequency effects on lexical
decision reaction time or the fine points of the Empty Category Principle
->
or worse, tormented by word frequency effect and word reaction time (or
reaction time of the effect) in the lexical decision operation, or devastated
by the Empty Category Principle]
#3 Preface, p.14
[I hope to convey the grand intellectual excitement that launched the modern
study of language several decades ago.
->
I hope to bring to you a kind of great excitement much like that which
impacted the field of modern linguistics decades ago.]
#4 Preface, p.15
[I hope to offer something different from the airy platitudes—Language Lite—
that typify discussions of language (generally by people who have never
studied it) in the humanities and sciences alike.
->
I hope to offer something different from the kind of airy platitudes
typically found in "Language Life", a (TV/radio) show discussing language
(usually hosted by people who have never studied it).]
#5 Preface, p.15
[This book, then, is intended for everyone who uses language, and that means
everyone!
->
This book, then, is intended for everyone who uses language, and I really do
mean all people!]
#6 Preface, p.15
[My home institution, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, is a special
environment for the study of language
->
...the best environment for...]
#7 Preface, p.16
[Thanks go also to...for erudite answers to questions ranging from sign
language to obscure ball players and guitarists
->
...for answering questions ranging from sign language to ball players and
guitar(s)]
#8 Preface, p.16
[one entire paragraph is omitted in translation: I am happy to acknowledge
the special care lavished by John Brockman, my agent, Ravi Mirchandani, my
editor at Penguin Books, and Maria Guarnaschelli, my editor at William
Morrow; Maria's wise and detailed advice vastly improved the final
manuscript. Katarina Rice copy-edited my first two books, and I am delighted
that she agreed to my request to work with me on this one, especially
considering some of the things I say in Chapter 12.]
#9 Ch 1, p.21
[As you are reading these words, you are taking part in one of the wonders of
the natural world.
->
...you are making one of the wonders...]
#10 Ch 1, p.21
[we can shape events in each other's brains with exquisite precision.
->
we can describe (or draw a picture of) the ideas in each other's brains with
high precision.]
#11 Ch 1, p.21
[Simply by making noises with our mouths, we can reliably cause precise new
combinations of ideas to arise in each other's minds.
->
...we can transfer the ideas in our mind to the other person's mind with
precision.]
#12 Ch 1, p.22
[Perhaps the next time you are in a supermarket you will look for club soda,
one out of the tens of thousands of items available,
->
...you will look for club soda (specifically) from tens of thousands of sodas
(or kinds of soda or brands) available,]
#13 Ch 1, p.22
[But a race of Robinson Crusoes would not give an extraterrestrial observer
all that much to remark on.
->
But a kind of people like Robinson Crusoe is not likely to leave any
accomplishments worthy of being circulated and remarked upon by posterity.]
#14 Ch 1, p.22
[What is truly arresting about our kind is better captured in the story of
the Tower of Babel,
->
On the other hand, the story of the Tower of Babel comes closer to describing
us (the human race) properly]
#15 Ch 1, p.22
[A common language connects the members of a community into an
information-sharing network with formidable collective powers. Anyone can
benefit from the strokes of genius, lucky accidents, and trial-and-error
wisdom accumulated by anyone else, present or past. And people can work in
teams, their efforts coordinated by negotiated agreements.
->
A common language connects the members of a community, giving it power:
anyone can share the experience and wisdom of anyone else, present or past.
And people can work in teams to overcome hardship.]
#16 Ch 1, p.22
[As a result, Homo sapiens is a species, like blue-green algae and
earthworms, that has wrought far-reaching changes on the planet.
->
As a result, Homo sapiens as a species survived in this world just like
blue-green algae and earthworms did.]
#17 Ch 1, p.23
[They know that it is man's most important cultural invention, the
quintessential example of his capacity to use symbols, and a biologically
unprecedented event irrevocably separating him from other animals. They know
that language pervades thought,
->
They know that it is man's most important cultural invention. The use of
symbols is the difference of the greatest difference between man and animals.
{"difference" appears twice, making it nonsensical in Chinese} They know that
language has control over thought,]
#18 Ch 1, p.24
[Instead, it is a distinct piece of the biological makeup of our brains.
->
Instead, it is a special control that is preconfigured in our brains.]
#19 Ch 1, p.24
[But I prefer the admittedly quaint term "instinct."
->
But I prefer the noun "instinct".]
#20 Ch 1, p.24
[Rather, spiders spin spider webs because they have spider brains,
->
...because they have brains,]
#21 Ch 1, p.25
[Thinking of language as an instinct inverts the popular wisdom, especially
as it has been passed down in the canon of the humanities and social sciences.
->
...especially as it has been passed down as doctrines/dogmas.]
#22 Ch 1, p.26
[language is an art, like brewing or baking; but writing would have been a
better simile. It certainly is not a true instinct, for every language has to
be learned. It differs, however, widely from all ordinary arts; ... an
instinctive tendency to acquire an art...
->
{in the Chinese translation, "art" here is translated as 藝術, which is the
Chinese term for art as that which is aesthetically pleasing, but it should
be more appropriately translated as 技藝/技能/技術, meaning a skill.}
#23 Ch 1, p.26
[It takes ... a mind debauched by learning to carry the process of making the
natural seem strange, so far as to ask for the why of any instinctive human
act.
->
Many acts by humans come naturally out of instinct. If we want to ask for the
why of any instinctive human act, we have to first slow down the mind in
order to understand and analyze it (the mind), and when we do so (slow down
the mind), natural things now seem/look strange.]
#24 Ch 1, p.27
[Why are we unable to talk to a crowd as we talk to a single friend?
->
Why do we talk to a crowd with a different attitude than when we talk to a
friend?]
#25 Ch 1, p.27
[This entire paragraph is missing in translation: Thus we may be sure that,
however mysterious some animals' instincts may appear to us, our instincts
will appear no less mysterious to them. And we may conclude that, to the
animal which obeys it, every impulse and every step of every instinct shines
with its own sufficient light, and seems at the moment the only eternally
right and proper thing to do. What voluptuous thrill may not shake a fly,
when she at last discovers the one particular leaf, or carrion, or bit of
dung, that out of all the world can stimulate her ovipositor to its
discharge? Does not the discharge then seem to her the only fitting thing?
And need she care or know anything about the future maggot and its food?]
#26 Ch 1, p.27
[I want to debauch your mind with learning, to make these natural gifts seem
strange, to get you to ask the "why" and "how" of these seemingly homely
abilities.
->
I want to cause these gifts, which you have taken for granted and considered
natural, to seem strange to you, to get you to...]
#27 Ch 1, p.27
[Watch an immigrant struggling with a second language or a stroke patient
with a first one, or deconstruct a snatch of baby talk, or try to program a
computer to understand English, and ordinary speech begins to look different.
->
Watch a stroke patient struggling with producing a word or a fragmented
sentence, or try to program a computer to understand English, ...]
#28 Ch 1, p.28
[Mental terms like "know" and "think" were branded as unscientific; "mind"
and "innate" were dirty words.
->
..."mind" and "innate" were obscenities {literal meaning of "dirty words",
such as swear words; doesn't convey the metaphor for "taboo" that "dirty
words" does in English}]
#29 Ch 1, p.28
[...dogs salivating to tones
->
...dogs salivating upon seeing the signal]
#30 Ch 1, p.28
[Therefore, he argued, children must innately be equipped with a plan common
to the grammars of all languages, a Universal Grammar, that tells them how to
distill the syntactic patterns out of the speech of their parents
->
...with the blueprint for comprehending/analyzing (all) the languages of the
world, i.e. the so-called Universal Grammar. The universality/universalness
of this grammar tells them how to distill the grammar out of the speech of
their parents]
#31 Ch 1, p.28
[The structures of mind that develop over time are taken to be arbitrary and
accidental;
->
...taken to be 武斷 (= imperious, domineering, dogmatic) and accidental
{"arbitrary" is often inappropriately translated as 武斷, a decidedly
pejorative term meaning "imperious"; here it should be 隨機(會)的 instead,
meaning "happening by chance; depending on the circumstances"}]
#32 Ch 1, p.29
[Even knowing very little of substance about linguistic universals, we can be
quite sure that the possible variety of language is sharply limited. . . .
The language each person acquires is a rich and complex construction
hopelessly underdetermined by the fragmentary evidence available [to the
child].
->
...The language each person acquires is a rich and complex construction.
(Therefore) it should not be restricted/confined/qualified from only the
fragmentary evidence available to the child.]
#33 Ch 1, p.29
[Nevertheless individuals in a speech community have developed essentially
the same language. This fact can be explained only on the assumption that
these individuals employ highly restrictive principles that guide the
construction of grammar.
->
...employ (a) very limited (set of) principles... {the translator has
mistaken "restrictive" for "restricted"}]
#34 Ch 4, p.115
[A part of speech, then, is not a kind of meaning; it is a kind of token that
obeys certain formal rules, like a chess piece or a poker chip.
->
A portion of spoken language (or speech), then, is not a kind of meaning...]
#35 Ch 6, p.192
[The voicelessness of the t in slapped matches the voicelessness of the p in
slapped because they are the same voicelessness; they are mentally
represented as a single feature linked to two segments.
->
...; in the terminology of psychology (or: in psychological
lexicon/vocabulary), they are represented as the same thing, as two segments
{the word "segments" here is left as English, in running Chinese text,
untranslated.} under the same feature.]
#36 Ch 8, p.255
[But this is not so. Beyond a time depth of about a thousand years, history
and typology often do not correlate well at all.
->
But this is not so. One thousand years ago, history and topography (topology)
did not correlate well. {here, not only did the translator mistake "typology"
for "topology" but she also put "topology" in parentheses after the Chinese
term 地誌學, which is the standard term for "topography".}]
#37 Ch 8, p.255
[English has changed from a free-word-order, highly inflected,
topic-prominent language, as its sister German remains to this day, to a
fixed-word-order, poorly inflected, subject-prominent language, all in less
than a millennium.
->
[...all these transitions occurred during the most recent millennium.]
#38 Ch 8, p.258
[All languages have a vocabulary in the thousands or tens of thousands,
sorted into part-of-speech categories including noun and verb.
->
..., and their nouns and verbs are distinguished according to "categories of
spoken language (or speech)". {a different, though still incorrect,
translation for “part of speech” for the second time}]
#39 Ch 8, p.271
[there is a similar reason, though not quite so forcible, for supposing that
both the Gothic [Germanic] and the Celtic, though blended with a very
different idiom, had the same origin as the Sanskrit;
->
..., though they had many different idiomatic expressions blended into them,
...]
#40 Ch 9, p.297
[The king's curiosity about the original language of the world allegedly was
satisfied two years later when the shepherd heard the infants use a word in
Phrygian, an Indo-European language of Asia Minor.
->
...use a word in Phoenician, an Indo-European language of Asia Minor.]
#41 Ch 9, p.298
[If Victor or Kamala had run out of the woods speaking fluent Phrygian or
ProtoWorld, who could they have talked to?
->
...fluent Phoenician...]
#42 Ch 11, p381
[These skills [for example, learning a grammar] may well have arisen as a
concomitant of structural properties of the brain that developed for other
reasons.
->
These skills for learning a grammar may well...]
#43 Ch 11, p385
[I challenge the reader to reconstruct the scenario that would confer
selective fitness on recursiveness.
->
I'd like the reader to imagine what kind of environment could have brought
about selective fitness.]
#44 Ch 11, p385
[Would it be a great advantage for one of our ancestors squatting alongside
the embers, to be able to remark: "..."?
->
Wouldn't it be a great advantage...?]
#45 Ch 11, p385
["Beware of the short beast whose front hoof Bob cracked when, having
forgotten his own spear back at camp, he got in a glancing blow with the dull
spear he borrowed from Jack"
->
{The purpose of this contrived example of English sentence featuring
recursion is clearly lost on the translator, as she translated it into a
mundane, normal Chinese counterpart corresponding in meaning but, alas, not
in structure. In fact, it is possible to render this sentence in Chinese that
is just as contrived (yet still grammatical) as the English counterpart, by
illustrating a different kind of recursion that exists in Chinese grammar,
"pre-nominal" recursion. But since the translator did not get the
"recursiveness" in the previous sentence, let's not push it.}]
#46 Ch 11, p385
[Human language is an embarrassment for evolutionary theory because it is
vastly more powerful than one can account for in terms of selective fitness.
->
...because it (human language) is not something that evolutionary theory can
account for.]
#47 Ch 11, p385
[I am reminded of a Yiddish expression, ...
->
...a Hebrew expression,...]
#48 Ch 12, p.391
[No one, not even a valley girl, has to be told not to say Apples the eat
boy...
->
No one, not even a child from the poorest and remotest village, knows that
one cannot say...] {in the Chinese translation, the logic of negation is all
wrong. It should be: everyone knows this; or: there is not anyone who does
not know this.}
--
There are a lot of things we don't want to know about the people we love.
--- Chuck Palahniuk
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