有人話我唔應該恥笑陳偉霆啲英文。就咁,我已經話過,佢紅唔係因為英文好,我接受,我係唔明 Chanel 廣告團隊點俾呢段片喺冇修正下出街。我亦唔係針對口音問題,係發音錯誤。之但係William 哥讀 St Jo 再加耀中,都幾名校出身。
講起名校,以下落黎呢位就最把炮。拔萃、普林斯頓、哈佛、賓州,我睇係香港高官裡面最高學歷嗰位。點知,我發現佢英文水平好水皮。近日佢喺立法會講咗段英文,瀨曬嘢:
//As I have said in the opening statement in Chinese, we have always upheld our political neutrality. Over the past many many years ever since the secretariat has come into existence, we have always worked against this principle. We have dealt with very controversial issues. We always endeavour to use our best professional judgement and independent thinking to serve the Council and all its committees. What we have done last Friday was to issue a letter to the Security Bureau hoping to clarify a number of questions relating to the details of the Bill. As everybody would understand from those list of questions, those details are important to be orally thought through. //
錯誤百出:
Political neutrality - not po-litical. 我會拍一段正確發音片段解釋。
Worked against this principle. - 佢癲咗,話秘書處一直反對政治中立呢個原則。佢係想講 worked according to this principle. 反轉咗黎講,自打嘴巴,呢個高官level,實在係seven。
'Over the past many many years... 港式英語 「過去好多好多年」。英文角度黎講係又多餘 (redundant) 又繁瑣 (cumbersome)。Delete。
Very controversial - very not fery. 香港人有發唔到 v 音邊漏風嘅 f 音問題。必須狠狠地咬住下唇。Con-troversial is wrong. 我會拍片解釋該如何發音。
'Those list' is grammatically wrong。係 those lists。單數複數都未識分。
'Orally thought through' makes no sense。呢個唔係語言問題係邏輯問題。翻譯成中文:「口頭考慮一下」。啲官究竟係想點....
唔想好似佢咁(我唔認為係佢嘅語言問題咁簡單。佢個腦有問題),請盡快聯絡我。PM我你嘅電話及名,我會今個禮拜或最遲下禮拜將新英式英文口語課程嘅資料俾你。我地會做一對一練習!
六月開波。
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神奇的翻譯幻想魔力
The Magic of Reality: How We Know What’s Really True?
什麼才是真的?:真實世界的神奇魔力
作者: Richard Dawkins
譯者: 黃煜文
繪者: 戴夫.麥金
出版社:大塊文化
出版日期:2012/05/29
這位譯者譯了幾本我感興趣的書,幾年前揭露過他翻譯另一本書(《是邏輯還是鬼扯?》)時的一些誤譯,有些頗爲好笑。著名無神論者、倡導演化論的英國科學家道金斯這本科普好書的翻譯,看來也一樣的不用心(還是無能爲力?),這裡略舉例幾段。
博客來試讀第1-2頁(原文第一章第14-16頁、中譯第12-14頁)
// Back to those dinosaurs. How do we know that they once roamed the Earth? We have never seen them or heard them or had to run away from them. Alas, we don’t have a time machine to show them to us directly. But here we have a different kind of aid to our senses: we have fossils, and we can see them with the naked eye. Fossils don’t run and jump but, because we understand how fossils are formed, they can tell us something of what happened millions of years ago. We understand how water, with minerals dissolved in it, seeps into corpses buried in layers of mud and rock. We understand how the minerals crystallize out of the water and replace the 【materials】 of the corpse, 【atom by atom,】 leaving some trace of the original animal’s form imprinted on the stone. So, although we can’t see dinosaurs directly with our senses, we can work out that they must have existed, using indirect evidence that still ultimately reaches us through our senses: we see and touch the stony traces of ancient life.
讓我們回頭來談談恐龍。我們怎麼知道牠們曾經一度漫遊在這片大地上?我們從未看過或聽過恐龍,也從未因為恐龍出現而四處逃竄。真可惜,我們沒有時光機能讓我們直接看到恐龍。但我們有不同的方法可以協助我們的感官:我們有化石,所以我們可以用肉眼看見「它們」。化石不會跑也不會跳,但我們了解化石是怎麼形成的,我們可以從化石得知數百萬年前發生的事。我們知道溶有礦物質的水分會以什麼方式滲透到埋在泥土與岩石層裡的殘骸中。我們也知道這些礦物質在水分蒸發後會留下結晶,然後取代原來存在於殘骸裡的【礦物質】。它們會【一個原子接著一個原子】把動物原本的形體痕跡滲印在石頭上。所以,雖然我們無法直接用我們的感官看見恐龍,但我們可以推斷恐龍真的存在,這些間接的證據最終還是能被我們的感官感知到:我們可以看到與摸到古代生物留在石頭上的痕跡。//
1a. //We understand how the minerals crystallize out of the water and replace the materials of the corpse, atom by atom, leaving some trace of the original animal’s form imprinted on the stone.
我們也知道這些礦物質在水分蒸發後會留下結晶,然後取代原來存在於殘骸裡的礦物質。它們會一個原子接著一個原子把動物原本的形體痕跡滲印在石頭上。//
「礦物質」取代「礦物質」?原譯把materials看成minerals。
改:這些礦物質在水分蒸發後會留下結晶,取代殘骸裡的物質。
(後記:感謝讀者 @ Michelle Wen〔小說譯者兼資深校稿人〕指出materials的誤譯。)
1b. Atom by atom,從英文的寫法看,應當修飾前句的「取代」(replace),不是修飾後句的「leave some trace」。
改:這些礦物質在水分蒸發後會留下結晶,一個原子接著一個原子取代殘骸裡的物質,把動物原本形體的些許痕跡滲印在石頭上。
這些錯誤如果看來沒什麼,好戲還在後頭!
// In a different sense, a telescope can work like a kind of time machine. What we see when we look at anything is actually light, and 【light takes time to travel.】 Even when you look at a friend’s face you are seeing them in the past, because the light from their face takes a tiny fraction of a second to travel to your eye. Sound travels much more slowly, which is why you see a firework burst in the sky noticeably earlier than you hear the bang. When you watch a man chopping down a tree in the distance, there is an odd delay in the sound of his axe hitting the tree.
從不同的角度來看,望遠鏡就像時光機。我們看到景物時,我們實際上看到的是光,而【光可以帶著時間旅行。】即使我們看著朋友的臉,我們看見的也是他們以前的臉,因為光從他們臉上到達我們的眼睛需要時間,儘管那是極其短暫的時間。聲音的速度比光慢得多,這是為什麼你會先看到煙火在天空炸開,然後過一陣子才聽到爆炸的聲音。你從遠處看人砍樹,你會發現斧頭砍在樹幹的景象與實際上聽到聲響有一種奇妙的時間差。//
2. 這個錯誤不必多解釋,很爆笑,但非提出來不可:
「光可以帶著時間旅行」,正確意思應該是「光的旅行(穿越空間)需要時間」。takes time (花時間)想像成擬人化的「攜帶時間」,真的很有趣。同一段下一兩句譯者卻又恢復神智,寫出「光從他們臉上到達我們的眼睛需要時間」。
「帶著X旅行」也是一本書名:Umberto Eco有本趣味散文集「帶著鮭魚去旅行」,張定綺譯,好像是從義大利文的英譯版再轉譯成中文。艾柯愛玩語言,那本書翻譯的挑戰很大。
// Are there really aliens in outer space? We’ve never seen or heard them. Are they a part of reality? Nobody knows; 【but we do know what kind of things could one day tell us if they are.】 If ever we got near to an alien, our sense organs 【could tell us about it.】 Perhaps somebody will one day invent a telescope powerful enough to detect life on other planets from here. Or perhaps our radio telescopes will pick up messages that could only have come from an alien intelligence. For reality doesn’t just consist of the things we already know about: it also includes things that exist but that we don’t know about yet - and won’t know about until some future time, perhaps when we have built better instruments to assist our five senses.
外太空真的有外星人嗎?我們從未見過外星人的樣子,也從未聽過外星人的聲音。外星人是現實的一部分嗎?沒有人知道;【可以確定的是,如果外星人真的存在,那麼總有一天我們會知道他們的長相。】如果我們靠近外星人,我們的感官會讓我們知道【外星人長什麼樣子。】或許有一天,人類會發明性能強大的望遠鏡,使我們能從地球觀測到其他行星上的生命。或許我們的電波望遠鏡會偵測到唯有具有智能的外星人才能發出的訊息。現實不只包括我們已經知道的事物:現實也包括已經存在,但我們尚未得知的事物──我們可能要等到未來某個時候才能知道這些事物,屆時我們可能已經造出更好的設備使我們的五官能知覺到這些事物。//
3. 真是鬼扯的翻譯!
// But we do know what kind of things could one day tell us if they are.
可以確定的是,如果外星人真的存在,那麼總有一天我們會知道他們的長相。//
「長相」是從英文的哪一個地方憑空妄想出來的啊?〔請想像這裡插入三萬個黑人問號!〕
But we do know 但我們確知:
what kind of things could one day tell us 什麼東西可以在未來的某一天告訴我們
if they are. 外星人是否存在
(=if they are a part of reality.外星人是否是現實的一部分)
英文完全沒有關於「長相、外貌」的痕跡!
4. 下一句也一模一樣,完全未提外星人的長相,爲何譯者那麼執念於外星人的長相?
// If ever we got near to an alien, our sense organs could tell us about it.
如果我們靠近外星人,我們的感官會讓我們知道外星人長什麼樣子。//
這裡,got near 是與現實相反的虛擬語氣,表示作者認爲我們距離認識、看到外星人還很遙遠。單單譯成「如果」也不夠力,可以說「萬一、萬一真的」。
5. 更基本的英文理解失能,是這個:it 指的是「our getting near to an alien」即條件句的內容,翻譯怎麼會瞎扯為「外星人的長相」呢?
改譯:萬一我們真的與外星人接近了,我們的感官會讓我們知道(這件事)。
// Atoms have always existed, but it was only rather recently that we became sure of their existence, and it is likely that our descendants will know about 【many more things that, for now, we do not.】 That is the wonder and the joy of science: it goes on and on uncovering new things. This doesn’t mean we should believe just anything that anybody might dream up: there are a million things we can imagine but which are highly unlikely to be real - fairies and hobgoblins, leprechauns and hippogriffs. We should always be open-minded, but 【the only good reason to believe that something exists is if there is real evidence that it does.】
原子一直都存在著,但我們知道有原子這個東西卻是相當晚近的事。很可能到了我們子孫的時代,人類【對原子的了解會比現在更深入。】 而這正是科學奇特與令人雀躍之處:科學總是能不斷揭露新的事物。但這不表示任何人夢想的任何事物我們都應該深信不疑:我們可以想像出一百萬件事物,但這些事物卻有可能極不真實,例如仙女與妖精,矮精靈與駿鷹。我們的心胸應該保持開放,【但我們必須要有真憑實據才能相信事物真的存在。 】//
6. 才一下段,又是一個基本英文句的誤解:
// it is likely that our descendants will know about many more things that, for now, we do not.
很可能到了我們子孫的時代,人類對原子的了解會比現在更深入。 //
know about many more things that, for now, we do not 指的不再是原子了,前句的原子只是舉例,告訴我們:很多存在的事物,人類會需要一段時間才知道存在。
改:很可能到了我們子孫的時代,人類才會認識許多目前不知道(已存在)的事物。
7. // the only good reason to believe that something exists is if there is real evidence that it does.
但我們必須要有真憑實據才能相信事物真的存在//
這句意思雖大致沒錯,卻失去原文的強調,「唯一」的好理由:
改:有真憑實據證明事物存在,是相信事物存在的唯一好理由。
以這種每段幾乎都有莫名其妙的誤譯的進度來看,整本書細究下來,問題恐怕是罄竹難書的「天文數字」!
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【解開人生謎題的寶書】(English writing below)
「師姐,簽書號已經發完了耶!」
地點:台灣雷藏寺的大燈文化攤位。
我一手抓著根本上師聖尊蓮生活佛的新書《我所知道的佛陀:如是我聞》,一手拿著錢要付款。
「沒關係,師兄,沒有師尊的簽名,我還是想買這本書。」我微笑著回答,感謝他的熱心提醒。
我喜歡紙本書。家裡整堵牆的書架,都是師尊的書。
我甚少在雷藏寺買師尊的書。一般來說,師尊推出新書時,我都會在新加坡的紀伊國屋書店購買,希望藉此能推廣師尊的文集在寺廟以外的地方。用錢買書,也是我出點微薄之力,代表我對作者付出的支持。
有師尊簽書固然是錦上添花,但能不能開悟,還是需要自己的努力。
初聽師尊宣布這書名《我所知道的佛陀:如是我聞》時,我頓時倍感親切。
每個人信佛的起點都不一樣。有的人是因爲篤信觀世音菩薩,而皈依佛門,我則是因爲「南無本師釋迦牟尼佛」。
在大學佛學會時,我常去本地的一間斯里蘭卡佛寺參拜佛陀,繞菩提樹。好幾年的時間,我在那兒,向佛陀述說了很多、很多我的苦楚,我的煩惱,有時候邊說,邊繞菩提樹,繞了無數圈,就連第一次失戀,也在臥佛前哭了兩個小時。
那時,我不明白為什麼人家做人,我也做人,但我無論怎麼努力,卻特別的苦。我一直求佛陀告訴我:我爲什麼要活著?我爲什麼要來到人間?我要怎麼改命?
當然,在壇城上的佛陀怎麼會開口跟這「怨女」說話呢?
我把打工的錢存起來,買一尊佛像,拿去開光,安在書房內。後來媽媽因爲某事生我氣,趁我不在時,把佛像仍掉。我畢業就職後,又請了一尊。傻傻的我以為那兩尊都是釋迦牟尼佛,其實祂們都是「大日如來」。
我想,這應該是我五年後皈依師尊的因緣之一。
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2013年,西雅圖雷藏寺開創一個新聞單元《如是我聞》,報導師尊的日常法教。小女子我自告奮勇拉著我師兄一起爲官網,把幾篇《如是我聞》翻譯成英文,回饋師尊的無私奉獻與教導。
從台灣飛回新加坡的航班上,我閱讀了師尊新書《我所知道的佛陀:如是我聞》兩個小時。
我忽然恍然大悟,十九年前,常跑到釋迦牟尼佛跟前訴苦的那個少女,原來佛陀真的聽到了她的哀求,沒有讓它落空。
理科班的我,從小就對這世界很好奇。家裡的百科全書,十年來,我從頭到尾都讀了至少百遍,但總覺得人要懂的知識,不該只有這些。
皈依師尊前,我曾讀過、聽過很多有名出家人的法語開示,無論是講中文或英文的。他們都講得很好,但是,唯有蓮生活佛的開示和文集,徹底的解除我自幼對於人生和宇宙的迷惑。
尤其是這本書。
原來在科學之外,還有這樣一個空間、一種能量和宇宙能力場存在著。
皈依學佛,就是學佛陀的教義,目的就是要成佛。
可怎樣的佛弟子,才是釋迦牟尼佛認可的弟子?
我們人要如何離苦得樂?如何去馴服自己狂野的心?如何從凡夫身回歸本來的面目?什麼又是原本的自己?
那天,師父問一位少女:「妳想學佛,那妳知道佛教教主是誰嗎?」
她已閱讀完師父在臉書2013年至2019年的文章,卻一個字都說不出。
切勿把佛法當成普通的人間知識來看待,更不要以學佛爲名,利用其知識賺錢做生意爲實。販賣如來,可是下地獄吞熾熱鐵丸、喝滾燙鐵汁之罪啊!
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我去台灣前,師父交代過要我到台北101拍照,於是我就抱著師尊的書去。
玳瑚師父教過,台北101是現代版的文昌塔。
古時候,文昌已甚被重視,因爲利於讀書、功名和事業。在沒有某種形式的山脈時,就會建文昌塔(又稱文峰塔)來催旺文人輩出。
古代有文昌塔,現代有台北101。
古代有佛陀初傳四聖諦,現代有蓮生法王繼續的轉法輪。
而人呢?從古至今,仍然在醉生夢死中。
一般人要文昌,因爲追求功名。但我對人間的智慧,已意興闌珊。我要文昌,因爲希望早日開竅,拜託,不要那麽笨 ~~
無論你是剛接觸佛法,還是皈依許久的老弟子,如果你和我一樣追求生命的實相,這本書裡的般若智慧必會讓你大開眼界、讚歎連連。
你到底有多認識佛陀呢?
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我大力推薦此書,可到以下書局網購,或到真佛般若藏免費閱讀電子書或聆聽有聲書:
1) 新加坡紀伊書店 - https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789573052654
2) 台灣金石堂 - https://www.kingstone.com.tw/basics/basics.asp?kmcode=2012000022409&lid=common-index-billboard-all&actid=bookindex
3) 真佛般若藏 - https://www.tbboyeh.org/cht#/store
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"Dharma Sister, the numbers for book signing have all been given out!"
Venue: Daden Culture book stall at Taiwan Lei Tsang Temple
I was holding on to "The Buddha I Know: Thus Have I Heard", the latest book by my Root Guru, His Holiness Living Buddha Lian Sheng, with my other hand grasping onto the cash, wanting to pay for the book.
"No problem, Dharma Brother. Without the autograph of Grandmaster, I would still wish to buy this book." I smiled in reply, thanking him for his friendly reminder.
I prefer reading from an actual book over an ebook. Back at home, I have one full wall of my Grandmaster's books on my bookshelves.
I rarely buy my Grandmaster's books from Lei Tsang temples. Usually, for His latest release, I would buy from Singapore Kinokuniya book store. It is my hope that this little gesture would help to boost sales at external bookstores, so that my Grandmaster's books can continue to be sold beyond the temples. To pay for it is my small token of appreciation and support for the author's effort.
To have my Grandmaster's autograph on the book is, of course, covetable, but whether the I can attain enlightenment is still dependant on my hard work.
When I first heard my Grandmaster announcing the book title "The Buddha I Know: Thus Have I Heard", I immediately felt a sense of closeness.
Everybody has a different starting point for believing in the Buddha. There are some people who are devoted to Guan Shi Yin Bodhisattva, and hence take refuge. For me, it was because of Shakyamuni Buddha.
During my NUS Buddhist Society days, I often visited a Sri Lanka Buddhist temple in Singapore. I would pay homage to Buddha and circumambulate the Bodhi tree. For many years, I would be at the temple regurgitating my troubles and sufferings to Buddha. Sometimes, I would circumambulate endless rounds around the Bodhi tree while being troubled. When my first relationship failed, I cried in front of the Sleeping Buddha for 2 hours.
At that time, I didn't understand why my life was tougher than other people, no matter how much effort I poured in. I kept pleading to Buddha for an answer. For what am I alive for? Why do I have to come to this mortal world? What can I do to improve my life?
Naturally, how could the Buddha that sat on the altar literally speak to this resentful girl?
With the money I scrimped and saved working part-time during my uni days, I bought a Buddha statue and after having it consecrated, I enshrined the statue in my study room. Once, when my mum was angry with me over some issue, she threw away the Buddha statue while I was out.
Upon graduation, I bought another Buddha statue. The silly me assumed that both statues are of Shakyamuni Buddha when in fact, they were of Mahāvairocana Buddha.
I guess this must be one affinity why I took refuge in my Grandmaster 5 years later.
In 2013, Seattle Lei Tsang Temple started a new column "Thus Have I Heard", reporting on the daily Dharma teachings of Grandmaster. Dragging the husband along, we volunteered to translate a few of the reports into English for the official website. It was our little way to repay Grandmaster for his selfless contributions and teachings.
Now you know why I took a liking to the book title almost immediately.
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On the flight back from Taiwan, I read the book for about 2 hours.
I suddenly had a realisation. The young lady that cried and bemoaned her fate in front of Shakyamuni Buddha 19 years ago had her prayers answered after all. Buddha did hear her pleas and did not let her prayers go unfulfilled.
I was a Science student and since young, I was full of curiosity for this world. The encyclopaedia I had at home had been read at least 100 times over 10 years. But I had always felt that the knowledge humans need to know should be more than that.
Before taking refuge in Grandmaster, I had read, watched and listened to many Dharma discourses expounded by many famous Venerables, both in English and Chinese. They all explained the teachings of Buddha very well.
However, only Living Buddha Lian-Sheng could thoroughly answer my conundrums about life and this universe, through His Dharma discourses and books.
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Especially in this book.
Apart from the science that we know, there is indeed another dimension of existence, another field of energy from the Universe.
When we take refuge to learn the Dharma, we are essentially learning what the Buddha had taught. The sole purpose is to eventually attain Buddhahood.
But do you know, just what kind of Buddhists are recognised by Shakyamuni Buddha as true disciples?
And how can we humans break free from sufferings and achieve bliss? How can we tame the wild minds in us? How do we return to our true self from this mortal body?
Just what actually is our true nature?
That day, Shifu asked a young lady, "You say you wish to learn the Dharma. Then do you know who is the founder of Buddhism?"
She had read all of Shifu's FB articles from 2013-2019, but was unable to reply.
Do not treat the Buddhadharma as ordinary mortal knowledge, let alone masquerade under the name of learning the Dharma, but in reality, using the knowledge to make more money and build a business. Peddling the Buddha for self-profit is a sin that would have you swallowing red hot iron balls and drinking boiling hot liquid iron in Hell!
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Before my trip to Taiwan, Shifu told me to take a photo with Taipei 101. So I went there with my Grandmaster's book.
Master Dai Hu had taught me, Taipei 101 is the modern-day version of Wen Chang Pagoda.
In ancient times, Wen Chang is highly valued, because it favours the academics, scholarly achievements and career. When a certain mountain form is lacking in certain geographical locations, a Wen Chang Pagoda ( also known as Wen Feng Pagoda) would be constructed to activate and encourage the birth of more scholarly people.
So in the old days, there is the Wen Chang Pagoda, and now we have the Taipei 101.
In the past, there is Buddha who first expounded on the Four Noble Truths. And now, we have His Holiness, Dharma King Lian Sheng, to continue turning the Wheel of Dharma.
What about humans? Throughout history, humans have lived a befuddled existence. Even till now.
Most people want Wen Chang because they pursue fame and recognition. I covet Wen Chang, because I hope to get enlightened sooner. Oh please, let me be less stupid...
Whether you are new to the teachings of Buddha, or a Buddhist disciple for years, if you are pursuing the ultimate truth of Life like me, this book will open up your eyes and have you singing in praises.
Just how well do you know Buddha?
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I strongly recommend this book and you can purchase it online at the links below, or hop over to True Buddha Prajna Treasury to read the ebook or listen to the audiobook for free.
1) Kinokuniya Singapore - https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789573052654
2) Kingstone Taiwan - https://www.kingstone.com.tw/basics/basics.asp?kmcode=2012000022409&lid=common-index-billboard-all&actid=bookindex
3) 真佛般若藏 True Buddha Prajna Treasury - https://www.tbboyeh.org/cht#/store
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