看看施芳瓏博士的英文之爛,看看蔡英文的博士學位疑點之多,人們對倫敦政經學院的“博士”,都要加一個問號了!
下面是《台灣海外網》的報導,和讀者留言對施芳瓏的嘲諷、痛斥(http://taiwanus.net/news/press/2019/201910222227481835.htm):
拿到48萬英鎊匿名捐款的施芳瓏,又是一個假博士?施說她是倫敦大學亞非學院博士,她真的與蔡英文有一比了。這種英文能力在哪個大學能找到教職?只能靠“匿名捐款”維持薪水。是不是由蔡英文家族或政府供養?
倫敦政經學院被詢問過,施芳瓏的台灣研究室是不是拿到蔡英文家族或政府的捐款資助,他們拒絕回答。而按照英國《信息公開法》,這個是應該公開的。
那個48萬英鎊的捐款名單,只有給施芳瓏的是匿名,其它都有名有姓。這背後的貓膩是什麼?如是政府出資捐助施芳瓏,那是台灣納稅人的錢,人民有權知道真相!
大家趕快看施芳瓏的youtube視頻,看看倫敦大學的學院出來的是什麼 “博士” 呀,是不是都是假博士?這個大學發生了什麼問題?以施芳瓏的英語,她能教學嗎?她怎麼通過的論文口試?
不僅施芳瓏的英文太差了,而且她在美西台灣人夏令營的演講,內容也太糟了,在講什麼哪吒、乩童、三太子,還把這些說成是“台灣精神”,也太糟踐台灣人了吧?!
施芳瓏至今沒有自己單獨寫出一本專著,發表的幾本書,全都與外國人合寫、合編的,有時一本書三、四個編者,除了施芳瓏,其他都是外國人名字,那施芳瓏是不是“搭便車”?她有自己獨立研究的能力嗎?
施芳瓏在倫敦政經學院(LSE)從來都沒有過教職,更從來都不是教授。從她獲得博士學位至今也有近二十年了,她的英文還爛到這種地步,那她當年怎麼能通過論文口試答辯的?看來,對於倫敦大學的政經學院、亞非學院的博士學位,通過蔡英文、施芳瓏等,人們更要加一個問號了!
而這樣一個之前從不見經傳的施芳瓏,只是因為一路為蔡英文的漏洞百出的論文門百般辯護,維護台灣的最高權力者,《北美洲台灣人教授協會》(NATPA),居然就給施芳瓏頒發了《廖述宗教授紀念獎》,真是讓一生堅持獨立精神、不向權力者低頭的廖教授,在天堂情何以堪?
施芳瓏獲獎,教授協會蒙羞!
請北美教授協會的會長、理事們,看看這個視頻,看看後面的讀者留言。這就是你們得獎者的水準。
這個視頻後面的讀者留言一片憤怒!不早看,施可能會刪掉。
現將一些讀者留言摘錄保留在整理,如果視頻被刪除,這些留言就沒有了。
167 Comments (Sort by Newest first)
知情者:
2017年的美西夏令營我有參加,當時想怎麼會有一個人帶綠色帽子全身穿綠色那麼俗氣,用那麼破的英文講三太子的故事,全瑒只有兩位白人不懂中文,是誰的 idea 叫她用英文演講的?全場的人大家逃的逃睡的睡,我算是客氣的,只是睡覺而已,她從頭到尾都帶那頂綠色的帽子,連吃飯時都帶,我在想她到底是非常喜歡那個帽子還是她有禿頭見不得人?最近菜論文的事情,施呼嚨又浮上台面,不禁想起她那頂又俗氣的帽子及菜英文。
Michelle Chang
我有參加此2017年7月的台灣人美西夏令營,當時就覺得這個人是誰呀?怎麼口才這樣?英文更是不行。
哪知兩年後2019年她成了名人(蔡英文論文門關鍵人物)!真是凡走過必留下痕跡!
Lin James
真好,有妳(Michelle Chang)這個在場見証人。
大李
我一點也不怪後面睡覺的年輕人,睡好睡滿睡久一點,才不會不小心聽到這種破英文!
賴百本
看來我也不該妄自菲薄,我的口語能力似乎不輸給這些留英博士😂😂😂
Suen Gao
I felt so sorry for Dr. Shih's broken English. However, I am willing to give her private English lesson, one on one without tuition whatsoever for her life time.
Crab CHANG)
閣下的英語能力似乎是自我感覺良好,令人錯愕,很懷疑妳的能力,自己的簡報居然還要看文字搞,而且是坐在位置上照念,如此的演講有誰會感興趣?更顯示妳的不專業,更令人難以想像,這種程度如何擔任老師指導學生,恐怕誤人子弟,虧妳還是菜英文委以大任的LSE辦公室主任,如何有能力與他人做研究及溝通?難怪要送花送酒,真是無言!
看了妳的背景資料,哇...哇..哇...妳如何辦到的,希望別跟妳的主子一樣。
https://www.facebook.com/%E6%96%BD%E8%8A%B3%E7%93%8F-Shih-Fang-long-1979761958997080/
Fan Hsiao
沒有這個單位
Victor H.
很有耐心的聽了幾分鐘, 每一句sentence 聽到一半就不自主的分心了,我的注意力無法連貫啊, 其實不在當地土生土長的人,說當地語言一定有口音, 這可理解 (不過老實說她的發音實在 below the average ) 但她連唸稿都很不順暢, 句子停頓,斷句,的地方都很奇怪, 這樣的英文程度是真的有問題了. 蠻驚訝她當初LSE 博士口試委員能聽的懂. 近來美國多所名校的入學作弊醜聞, 讓人喪失了對這些英美高等學府相當的尊敬及信賴
Paul Wong
OMG😳😳😱😱 What is she talking about. Mandarin or English????? I can hardly understand what the Fuck she was talking about😨😨😨😨
CHOCOLATE VASCO
要死啦!什麼英文程度還可以在海外混吃混喝,菜渣政府用人酬庸不用專業,台灣國恥。
Topolino J.C.
「小小小」...這叫蝦米學校出來的博士?!
slideshows? 定逃?check 的book金錢外交?這人有LSE博士學位?!挖熊熊袂昏德🙄
Zale Yardley
聽著耳酸 然而以她的年紀 說真的不能太奢求英文水平 但英倫名校的博士 未免太掉漆 應自知藏拙護羽毛
Annie Yang
OMG
范常漢
關鍵字:「沈玉琳」「英國貴族腔」
Lily Formosa
Oh my god. What language is she speaking? 跟蔡英文的程度同一個等級。真是嚇世嚇正。
Yves Chuang
11:10 帥哥,你就這樣睡著的點頭下去,有考慮在前面正賣力用英文演出的演講者感受嗎?
綠吱障舔我蔡陰帝
好綠的英文,跟陰帝一夥都這種德性,看她講話我拳頭硬了!
Ching-Ping Lin
8 hours ago
聽完她的英文,突然覺得自己真棒!
Ching-Ping Lin
8 hours ago
她勇氣可佳,實在有超難聽的英文,竟然還敢講!
黃漢斯
國中一年級發音水準.上學期.
陳彥妤
喔這個可能連幼稚園都比不上了啦
阿昌
假鬼假怪 装腔作勢
丁祿
後面哥哥在睡覺啦
chuang1302
這什麼英文啊, 天啊
方輔仁
6 hours ago
真的是菜英文……
CHRIST CHU
幹
這個英文比我還爛
Tiger Tiger
媽啊 如果我是這種英文程度
我會找個地洞鑽進去苦練好了再出來
scimonster
她真的是博士???
Gaby Jones
可惜我不懂英文所以聽不出來她的爛英文,但明顯聽出就是跟其他人不一樣。
Yu Tony
看過一集youtube一個福建大叔,偷渡去英國做廚師十年説得比她還流利.
Vincent Liao
7:04 後面那個不要睡覺。
Patty Pan
My goodness!
money ... bought diploma. Her Engish was worse than me.
LerhChang
15 hours ago
果然同「菜英文」物以類聚
Lin James
西方童話故事的老巫婆好像就是穿這種綠色
下地獄!死後,
2 hours ago
48萬英鎊是你的,我的,他的,大家的,的,的,的……………………納稅錢!
Jessica Wen
3 hours ago
天啊!花了3000萬的研究,研究乩童 三太子 ,竟然說李靖是歷史人物,李靖是神話好嗎?
郵件航空
22 hours ago (edited)
Wow 鏗鏘有力的英國腔 搭配許純美招牌帽 優雅氣質美女 對不起 說得連我自己都吐了
高草木ひかる
6 hours ago
2018-05-02 施呼嚨是教授?!研究獎金又是北美台灣人教授協會?!
北美洲台灣人教授協會(North America Taiwanese Professors’ Association NATPA)公布今(2018)年「廖述宗教授研究獎金」得獎人選,由倫敦政經學院(LSE)台灣研究計畫室主任施芳瓏與美國瑪卡萊斯特學院 (Macalester College) 地理學系助理教授張儀君獲獎。
施芳瓏(FANG-LONG SHIH)於2005年取得倫敦大學(University of London, UK)宗教人類學博士學歷,現為倫敦政經學院"教授。"並於2006年擔任《Taiwan in Comparative Perspective》執行編輯,後進入倫敦政經學院擔任台灣研究計畫室主任(2009開始),並於亞洲中心擔任研究員(2003-2015)。
2015年得獎之一:黃國昌
Roger Smith
只聽第一句英文就按倒讚👎了, 這位ㄒㄧˋ(Shih)女士真的是個博士嗎???
下地獄!死後,
1 hour ago
這奇葩博士嘴,打趴全世界人類英語!讚啦,台灣因妳而驕傲!
小莎
天啊,這個人若是真有國外的博士學位,請告訴我口試如何過關的,我真的很想知道..........
下地獄!死後,
1 hour ago
菜英文閨密
K K
屎呼珑讲英文等同殺人
Kazu Tsu
令人傻眼
How Ho
領了納稅人將近三千萬台幣的「匿名捐款」?
How Ho
野雞呼嚨的英文好差啊 唸稿還這麼差
shelby
太扯了,什麼破英文!
她講"the"時以為在講中文"的",看下面留言才知道在講"the"
風之飄渺小兔
這英文。。。真的有待加強。。。說你博士出來的。。。真沒人相信啊
Mike Hu
假博士請了一個假圍事。一山還有一山高,這是coser 總冠軍。
kevin1tw1
我 super impressed by her 的 .
Yvonne Charng
這名女士非常有自信,還是無自覺???
煙影
還以為是高高手...原來是唬著走...
Lin James
她叫作 是呼嚨就表明做人、做事、講話只要呼嚨呼嚨就好 🙄
講的滿口,嚇死嚇症的爛菜英文 😖
stephanie vongprachanh
🗣哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈,我th决th定th去th英th国th读th博th士th!
Ho peichi
She reminds me a comedian named Joe Wong (黃西)~XDDDD
洪鎮南
1 hour ago (edited)
阿媽....??? WTF我快吐血了,還金錢外交!!蔡英文搬多少國家錢給她啊!
我受不了了,把蔡英文拉下台吧
騙子蔡同謀
台独贱畜习近平鬼畜道毁灭五毛狗爽!
1 hour ago
案外案也是一直爆發!除了假博士之外,還有施呼攏假造的冒牌LSE台灣研究室!作弊英集團沒有一項是誠實的,攏係假。😂😂😂😂😂
台独贱畜习近平鬼畜道毁灭五毛狗爽!
1 hour ago
施呼攏需要的是佛法,請許純美開釋她。
Aoson A
1 hour ago
不行,不能侮辱了佛
Kai Huang
1 hour ago
鞋猴的倫
TW ZH
2 hours ago
一直以為她有夾雜日文在裡面
Light Year
2 hours ago
She makes me sick.
平平
2 hours ago (edited)
蔡英文 看讀稿機
施芳瓏 看文字稿
兩位說詞 2266 不三不四
用假論文 假博士 學歷詐騙犯?
兩人臭味相投狼狽為奸欺騙社會, 盜用百姓納稅金 可惡
平平
2 hours ago
蔡英文假論文手札,
詐騙台灣36年之久!
內容荒誕無稽鬼扯,
不可告人之事變態?
蔡英文淫威親下令!
雜記手札封存30年!
要等2049年見笑死!
政治大學 東吳大學 兩大名校校長 校務主管 最近都同時生病?
耳朵聽不見?
眼睛看不見?
嘴巴沒辦法講話 ?
腦袋沒辦法思考?
無法主持校務 白拿薪資?
尋求各位網友有何良藥 ?可以治療比症狀?
因蔡英文 的假論文,假博士 ,假學歷詐騙犯? 香菸 走私犯, 嚴重影響校譽 在現實政治綠色恐佈淫威下, 二個月之久,不敢有一絲一毫 發表看法 和調查報告。!!?
毅翔
3 hours ago
施呼攏的爛英文,讓我笑到快岔氣!不要說博士,會點英文的人也不至於說得那麼破。她那口爛英文不但羞辱LSE (原來LSE畢業的是這種水準? 太掉漆啦),更讓人深深懷疑她的真實學歷。太混了...施搞笑!
Lin James
55 minutes ago (edited)
毅翔
她叫作 是呼窿,就表明做人、做事、講話呼窿呼窿就好了。🙄
嚇死下症的一口爛菜英文。
Aoson A
4 hours ago
耳朵被強暴了,天鵝啊,哪來的勇氣,妳有勇氣念完,我沒勇氣聽,好丟台灣人的臉,菜陰魂妳底下是沒人了嗎
Jack Leu
4 hours ago (edited)
The speaker’s English is extremely rough! How could she survive so many years in UK? Could benefit from a speech therapist.
Miles Joseph
5 hours ago
OMG 我的天阿! 她是在唸英文字 那裡是在講英語?
世新怎麼畢業的?! 大家來鼻香如此這般博士菜英文...
簡直比國中生還遜! 如此唸稿菜英文竟然取得英國LSE博士?! 買的吧?!
一個拿到48萬英鎊且力挺蔡英文的施芳瓏又是一個假博士?
Aoson A
4 hours ago
48是買一送一
黎david
5 hours ago
很糟糕 !
證明~韓國瑜的雙語教育 未來一定要大加推廣!
傳媒鬼鬼
6 hours ago
i was sit there ? 這個英文怎麼????????哈哈哈
啟稟皇上
7 hours ago
看到這種'博士'讓我終於相信原來博士是花錢就買得到的東西~
Don Liang
7 hours ago
好強大的正面力量啊....
突然覺得我家隔壁歐巴桑也可以讀博士了.
MoronFeministJang
8 hours ago
已下載存證
perone lee
9 hours ago
这是在哪丢人啊。。。
方輔仁
9 hours ago
這種英文把LSE水準降低好多好多……
吳家昇
22 minutes ago
難怪那一句I have problem of saying Chinese language文法錯一堆!好厲害啊我的媓!
吳家昇
24 minutes ago
看稿唸還能唸成這樣!比國中生的英文還破!
吳家昇
26 minutes ago
天啊!這個女人有拿到博士喔!她還在英國住了一段時間吧!這支影片真是讓我好開心啊!要多看心情才會好!
JACK QIN
28 minutes ago (edited)
這又是一個騙子!你的英文說明瞭一些,告別我怎麼得到48萬英鎊贊助的。
Lin May
33 minutes ago
夭壽喔,施主真的是英國留學的博士? 我對英國學位開始不信任了,笑爛
dh cheng
41 minutes ago
比我的英語發音還爛
林BOKI
10 minutes ago
後面的兄弟怎麼這麼快就睡著了.....
郭建國
13 minutes ago
痛苦到痛哭流涕!每個英文字後還有[的]尾音?這是什麼狗屁 菜英文???
蘇健堯
35 minutes ago
後面的聽到睡著了,可見講的2266
林怡潔
1 hour ago
笑翻
Teresa Ku
3 minutes ago
OMG💩這英文🤯
Teresa Ku
4 minutes ago
這綠帽子是怎麼回事?🤢
fomorsa taiwan
20 minutes ago
英文程度很差的唸稿雞
joe Hou
2 hours ago
這是英文朗誦比賽(國小組)???評審聽了快睡著了....
Anna Zhang
4 hours ago
许纯美英文。
eason0702amway
5 hours ago
我的老天鵝啊!這種程度,唸稿唸的跟中風一樣,快吐了我
1 day ago
這個照稿唸的英語發音跟斷句很差,老實說!
3 hours ago
S Y
她英文真的很糟⋯⋯I don’t believe that she worked for LSE!
我住在洛杉磯!
59 minutes ago
我很懷疑她會是LSE 的人類宗教學教授
Daisy Horsburgh
5 hours ago
Please don’t think that is called British English. She is a joke.
Amy Laio
23 hours ago
博士?哈哈哈~怎麼又是看稿機~聽到快要斷氣
15
trains Taiwan
22 hours ago
這是博士水準嗎?😑
根本台灣菜市場歐巴桑英文腔
投影簡報英文不是PowerPoint吧?😑
我記得是slideshow
Fish Lee
21 hours ago
哎唷,我的媽!
謝天展
10 hours ago
人家英文爛有什關係,隨便青青菜菜就撈了台灣人上億的血汗錢。
Chris L.
10 hours ago (edited)
好破的英文,一開口便破功,笑屎啦...聽了真想撞牆...這人的學歷應該也是偽造的!
JACK QIN
6 hours ago
Your Broken English made my brain painful.
Gingin Chen
6 hours ago
+1.想拿塞子塞住嘴巴
啟稟皇上
5 hours ago
一邊用爛英文一邊用中文, 妳他媽有甚麼專業?
Grace In Taiwan
7 hours ago
這英文真爛, ‘th’ 的發音笑死人了.
啟稟皇上
4 hours ago
現場只有兩個東張西望的觀眾, 哈哈哈~~
Meichun Liao
5 hours ago
丟人現眼的爛英文啊~發音一蹋糊塗。她應該大學都沒畢業吧!強烈質疑她的學歷!什麼博士、教授? 不會是吧!她的英文恐怕英國佬也聽不懂!她應該叫施好笑或施荒唐吧!
啟稟皇上
4 hours ago
這個叫博士喔? 笑死人了, 哈哈哈~~
19 man
8 hours ago
台灣人民的納稅錢,不乾淨的不要拿啊!
會報應啊⋯⋯
PeeCahChoo
4 hours ago
他的內容也太可怕了 先不說他的英文 就講內容 亂跳 完全沒有順序可言
亂七八糟
Aoson A
5 hours ago
後面那個人都在度姑了
Michelle Chang
11 hours ago
我有參加此2017年7月的台灣人美西夏令營,當時就覺得這個人是誰呀?怎麼口才這樣?英文更是不行。
哪知兩年後2019年她成了名人(蔡英文論文門關鍵人物)!真是凡走過必留下痕跡!
Lilian Kuo
10 hours ago (edited)
OMG~施小姐的英文好像鄉下阿桑的台腔破英文...我懷疑她有博士,比一般大學生還差!聽一分鐘就聽不下去了...
陳善蓉
10 hours ago
Lilian Kuo 我很勉強的多聽了兩分鐘,真的不質疑其學歷也難。況且待在U.K.的大環境中,似乎也沒被些許的同化。又多了解到何謂一丘之貉。
PeeCahChoo
4 hours ago
撇開他的英文先不談 他的內容才更有問題
怎麼哪吒三太子成了台灣年輕人的英雄?? 然後又說 沒有陣頭 台灣的年輕人都會跑去迪是可去蹦D 他的論點是哪來的 研究的樣本和樣本數都沒有 難到跟主子蔡的所謂論文一樣 自己閉門造車 亂寫一通 沒有研究的數據跟樣本來源
完全狗屁不通的菜市場級數也自稱教授 好想知道哪些人是他的學生
PeeCahChoo
4 hours ago
@陳善蓉 不必懷疑 上辜狗 真找不到他的任何學經歷 除了他自己發的公關文以外 危機百科都找不到 這個厲害吧 特務吧??
啟稟皇上
5 hours ago
老巫婆~
啟稟皇上
5 hours ago
這是幼稚園嗎?
啟稟皇上
5 hours ago
怎麼不感拍現場啊? 這是甚麼騙子啊?
Teresa Liu
22 hours ago
英文發音很爛
Aoson A
5 hours ago
她是用注音備註發音嗎?傻眼耶,國小程度好的孩子發音都比她好多了,是在念啥小
Gemmy Lin
18 hours ago (edited)
實在聽了哭笑不得啊!
這樣就是英國留學博士水準喔?為什麼有那麼多"的"?
後面的年輕人,一開始只是抖抖腳、閉眼忍受,後來直接低頭思故鄉了...
謝謝攝影者留下這麼經典的片段,拍得很好!
Chi-Shu Schmidt
8 hours ago
一个台灣派駐LSE研究室的主任,語言能力那麽差,必然有其他的特殊能力和闗係。
Aoson A
5 hours ago
菜陰文可是她的伯樂,發現她的英語長才
tigerbabies
58 minutes ago
我驚呆了!!!! 一直有追政經,一直聽彭P提施唬弄....我以為她是一個多了不起的人物...可以在英國隻手遮天但看了這個影片我必需承認...她在copy晶晶體...但是至少看李晶晶說晶晶體是種享受! 看她說晶晶體是種折磨@@
Anna Zhang
45 minutes ago
许纯美英文。
Aoson A
5 hours ago
哈哈哈
Norden Shining
1 hour ago
爛英文,物以類聚啦⋯⋯
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呂秉權先生的分享
#絕望中的希望 《免於恐懼的自由》祈禱會
呂秉權 兄弟分享--- #沸點即場筆錄
片段 ▶️ https://www.facebook.com/109180535767655/posts/2493494547336230?s=548400948&v=e&sfns=mo
主教、神父、各位兄弟姊妹,大家好!很感恩可以在這裏跟大家分享,大家還是平平安安。我想起一位從大陸偷偷地來香港返教會,「宗教自由行」的姊妹,她說,想不到竟然可以在街頭報佳音,如果在大陸做這事的話,一早就被拒捕了!原來,我們可以站在街上祈禱、唱聖詩,是這麼美好的事情!
今次逃犯條例的修訂,令政府有一個很大的讓步,我可以說,這是一個奇蹟、是一個神蹟!
為我們這群,一直研究中國大陸政治的朋友來說,看著所有原先的蛛絲馬跡,中央對港的方針,是沒有讓步這計劃的!我跟大家說,原本這樣的逃犯條例,是怎樣的一回事:北京和林鄭月娥,他們以為這條例必定順利通過!為什麼?
首先,立法會絕對有足夠的票數去支持、商界也在中央的操控下一一「跪低」,即使你不情願,你不願意收回你的司法覆核也好,你最好也要跪低。
第二,在民意而言,北京已經評估過香港狀況,就算最多反對聲音、最壞程度,北京原先的評估,反對者就是佔中的規模;而佔中的規模,特區政府和警方已綽綽有餘,足以瓦解這行動於無形。兼且,這幾年來,香港的警隊, 已經不再是同樣的警隊了!香港的警隊已經進化了很多。
在後勤,我們亦知道解放軍已預備好。上一次佔領行動的時候,解放軍駐港部隊的深圳後勤部隊已經演練了;他們以四人枱一個人的規模,預備進行必要的介入,但最終沒有用到,但是他們是有部署的。如果有1萬人的集會,四個人抬1人,換句話說,就是說有4萬兵力在後勤準備。今次,不要以為我們看不見明顯的徵兆;解放軍駐港部隊已經不經不覺地做了不少工作。大家可記得?山竹襲港時,市面和郊野公園有大片破壞,解放軍駐港部隊幾百人,居然越過了駐軍法,沒有通知特區政府的情況下,可以出兵幾百人,穿着制服,他們以清理郊區的名義,動員幾百人,沒有駐軍令、沒有適當程序,他們就派了幾百個解放軍來了。這一點,我自己認為是十分危險的訊號。
第三,除了因為林鄭信心爆棚外,還有中央的因素在內。如果我們只看表面的話,會以為(修例)只是林鄭個人決定。其實,逃犯條例的修訂,中央跟香港談了很多年了,他們問香港要人,要了很多年了!今次在這修訂逃犯條例的大背景下,中央政府希望「法律武器化」香港;簡單來說,就是用任何香港的程序和法律去實行國家安全,這至高無上的保障。中央想通過這條移交逃犯條例,其實是一條「萬能Key」,文匯大公的權威解讀,國內中港智囊研究多年中港移交條例,除了一般所說:大陸犯罪的人匿藏在香港、除了香港人在國內犯罪回到香港外...... 更重要的計劃,就是威脅「國家安全」的罪犯。
在文匯大公報,5月23日引用權威人士解讀:當遇到威脅國家安全的罪犯時,一般是由香港,按照香港法律程序去處理的。那換句話說,是有不一般的情況了?當不一般的情況出現了,是不是就是可以超越香港程序去處理?而在國內研究這問題的智囊,很清楚跟我們說,在中國法律上,是沒有「政治犯」的!我們從前說反革命罪犯、或現在煽動顛覆國家政權罪犯,他們並非「政治犯」,而只是三個字:刑事犯!當我們面對刑事犯的時候,是否不引渡呢?是不是用政治犯為保護罩,我們就不引渡危害國家安全的罪犯呢?國內的智囊說,國內的邏輯是相反的!正是這些人破壞國家安全,香港更不能夠成為國家安全的漏洞,更加要去移交(罪犯),這是最恐怖的。
為什麼我們覺得恐怖呢?因為我們怎樣去定義一個人危害國家安全呢?那標準是相當之闊!在內地,只要你所謂「得罪共產黨」,你做一些黨不喜歡你做的事;你批評中央、你去支援內地的宗教,也許你報導一些新聞,內地不喜歡的......很容易你就會被檢控。
以往很多人被「砌生豬肉」(誣告),用藏毒罪、用偷竊罪、用間諜罪...... 被指控,是很恐怖的情況!我們中國大陸所行的體制,是人民民主專政,簡單來說就是「專政」兩個字!
專政是什麼呢?專政就是說,當面對政府所認為的「敵人」時,就可以不需要依照法律辦事、可以越過法律。如果大家還記得,在內地發生過不少專政事件,劉霞為什麼會完全沒有在法律程序下,被剝奪人身自由、被軟禁這麼久?銅鑼灣書店的相關人士,為什麼可以在香港跟泰國等地被綁架;被綁了之後,自願被剝奪所有法律權利,不見家人,在電視機面前認罪......為什麼呢?因為當時中國政府正在實行專政。
國家主席劉少奇,用憲法的名義叫大家不可以這樣去迫死人, 到最後......他們將一個被鬥到遍體鱗傷,急需醫院治療的一個國家主席,丟在河南的一個密室,失救至死。專政還可以令十大元帥賀龍,他患有糖尿病和各種疾病;死的時候被人專政,把高質量的葡萄糖液,打進他的身體,葡萄糖液與糖尿病結合...... 令他的腎臟衰竭、身體衰竭而死。
當一個國家說自己依法治國,但隨時可以行專政的時候,香港的法律開了一扇門,與這種專政的做法接連、以國家安全名義...... 這是多麼恐怖的事呢?而這個程序去修例,就是原來的劇本!
原來的劇本亦包括,中央在年頭的時候,審視全國的形勢,去防止各種的失控,各種不穩定因素,各種的風險。國家開了全國最高省部級的領導幹部大會,有習近平在中央黨校開講,很出名的什麼灰犀牛、黑天鵝、六個穩定,就是從這會議中出來的。當時中共領導人,是很害怕一件事: 所謂的中國「逢九必亂」,逢年份有9,他們就容易有大亂,中共見證着:
1949年,國共的更替;59年,大饑荒;69年,中蘇珍寶島之戰,國家主席劉少奇被鬥死;79年,中越戰爭;89年,六四事件;99年,法輪功圍中南海;2009年,新疆七五騷亂。
2019年頭的時候,中共已經開了全國大會去防止有任何混亂的情況。他們做了很多措施,亦都分享了很多經驗怎去處理問題。當時在中央的劇本中,香港的局勢可以說:穩如泰山!沒有可能在逢九必亂的其中一亂,是沒有可能的。他們所擔心的是經濟、與及萬一出現的失業問題,中美貿易之戰,絕對不是香港的事情。
近年,中央領隊領導人對香港的研判,他們認為香港局勢是非常的大好!為什麼這樣說呢?因為全面管治權已逐步落實,立法會受到建制的加持,由於這些社運、甚至旺角騷亂的人,相繼被重判;各種不同政見的人被DQ,整個社會的公民意識越來越低;北京與林鄭政府是極有信心的,這條例,不可能不通過!習近平早年說怎樣處理群眾運動時,清楚地說到:他剛剛上台,要扭轉胡、溫時代的那種妥協作風。習近平說:不可以:小鬧小解決、大鬧大解決、不鬧不解決!他不能讓這情況持續下去!習近平任內對港的多番措施,沒有一件證明他是妥協的;除了梁振英的不連任,而當時,是因為他在建制及商界中拿不到票 。有數票的人說,取得601票已是十分困難了,不是群眾的力量造成。而今次面對6月9日103萬人大遊行,大家可以看到,林鄭與北京政府當時的不妥協,遊行完後,無論人數有多少,依然故我,條例繼續。
當我們常常會問:天主你在哪裏?天主,為什麼香港可以被人摧殘至此?不知怎樣來了一個逆轉 !當我們很多時質疑青年是「廢青」,在612星期三,出現了一個大家都不想看見、但卻成了一個逆轉的場面!一班青年人,他們有些是寫了遺書的,決定自己去擋子彈的情況下,他們去衝擊立法會、衝擊警方防線!當然從法律來說,他們的做法是犯法的;但是從一個公義的角度,他們認為這事情不應該這樣繼續下去,所以,他們做了抗爭。而這種抗爭,竟令到已經升級變形的香港警隊,殺紅了眼,連內部評估,也認為當警方被衝擊後,出去對群眾的清場用槍、去射頭部、用各種武器去攻擊一些無辜的人;警隊的一些內部評估,也認為是過火了。是這情況令到整件事逆轉!整個國際的壓力,令到北京政府難以承受。
那原先他們的計劃是怎樣呢?在內地的電視,和平集會的鏡頭全部被刪去,被描繪成示威者衝擊警察、暴徒般襲擊,今次他們想說成香港暴徒襲擊政府,以拿取道德高地。殊不知,警方濫用武器、過度執法、逆轉了整個畫面!原本習近平的計劃:叫做「楓橋經驗」,那就是遇到群眾事件時,就地解決,矛盾不上交!煎你的皮、但內裡燒不焦;鬥你的表面,但內部不會出事......
但很可惜,今次特區政府不單止沒有「矛盾不上交」,不但上交中央、還上了國際層面;令中共面對非常大的壓力,因而出現了一個逆轉。
我認為,這是天主的眷顧、天主的神跡!
到最後,我想用一個眼神去完結我這個分享:我記得,在612過後,我跟朋友去了一所聖堂,在聖堂門口見到一對警察,虎視眈眈,還是非常強硬的態度,他們想去捉拿聖堂內的青年。我在聖堂內看見一位青年,穿著黑背心,眼神很惶恐。我問他,可要幫他買件衣服,讓他離開?他說:「不用了」,他在聖堂得到了保護,找到了他的家,真正的父親、母親。當我行出教堂外,警察的目光,好像張牙舞爪,想要抓一個孩子......
希望上主繼續眷顧我們,賜我們平安;希望傷者能得平安...... 主佑香港!
2019年6月19日晚上
▶️ 祈禱會直播 https://www.facebook.com/1764198537146061/posts/2394608974105011?s=548400948&sfns=mo
▶️再談逃犯條例修定研討會 https://www.facebook.com/hkjpcom/videos/2180158835373248?s=667412853
“Hope in despair”
sharing of Mr Lui Ping Kuen at the “freedom from fear” prayer meeting
Bishop, father, brothers and sisters:
I am so grateful to share with you all here and I am grateful that we are all safe. I think of a sister who sneaked in Hong Kong to attend church services, “Religious Individual Visit”. She was surprised that there was street caroling in Hong Kong because one will be arrested if one does this in the Mainland. It is so wonderful that we can pray and sing hymns on the street!
I can claim that it is a miracle that the government retreats on the extradition bill!
For people like us who have studied Chinese Politics for a long time, we found that the Central Government had no plan to retreat in their policy towards Hong Kong from the clues we observed. I told you what the extradition bill was about originally: Beijing and Carrie Lam thought that the bill must be passed smoothly! Why?
First of all, there were definitely enough votes in the Legislative Council to pass the bill, and the business sector also submitted under the control of the Central Government, whether you were willing or not, whether you wanted to withdraw the judicial review application or not, you’d better submit to it.
Secondly, the Central Government has assessed the views of people in Hong Kong and they thought that the worst case scenario would be similar to that of the scale of Umbrella Movement only. They believed that the HKSAR Government and the Police could handle that scale of protest easily. Moreover, Hong Kong Police Force is not the same as the one a few years ago and has improved a lot. We also knew that the People's Liberation Army was well prepared to support. The logistic unit of People's Liberation Army Hong Kong Garrison in Shenzhen has drilled during the previous occupying movement. They prepared to intervene, on a scale of 4 soldiers to remove 1 protester, when necessary. Although it was not carried out eventually, they were prepared. If there is a rally of 10 thousands people, 4 soldiers removing 1 protester, that means there are 40 thousands soldiers preparing to support. We can see significant signs that People's Liberation Army Hong Kong Garrison has done a lot when we are not aware of it. Do you still member, there was extensive damage in urban and rural areas during the strike of severe typhoon Mangkhut? A few hundred soldiers from the People's Liberation Army Hong Kong Garrison wearing their uniform, bypassing the Garrison Law and without informing the HKSAR Government, were mobilised in the name of clearing the rural areas. Ignoring the Garrison Law and proper procedure, they sent a few hundred soldiers. I think this is a very dangerous sign.
Thirdly, besides the overconfidence of Carrie Lam, the Central Government is also a key factor. On the surface, we would think this (amendment of the bill) is solely Carrie Lam’s own decision. In fact, the amendment of extradition bill has been discussed between the Central Government and the HKSAR Government for many years. They have been asking Hong Kong for people they wanted for many years! The Central Government wants to make law their weapon in Hong Kong, to put it simply, the Central Government wants to exercise national security by using any procedures and laws in Hong Kong, this is the ultimate protection. The Central Government wants to pass this extradition bill, which works for nearly anything. From the authoritative interpretation by the Wen Wei Po and Ta Kung Pao, the think tank in Mainland which has been studying extradition law between Mainland and Hong Kong for many years, that it is because, besides the situations that the criminals from the Mainland hide in Hong Kong or Hong Kong people committed offences in the Mainland and hide in Hong Kong, more importantly the criminals that threaten “national security”.
On 23 May, Wen Wei Po and Ta Kung Pao quoted interpretation from authority that it is normally handled by Hong Kong according to Hong Kong legal procedures when there are criminals that threaten national security. In other words, there are abnormal situations? Will it bypass the Hong Kong legal procedures to handle the case when abnormal situation occurs? Member of think tank in the Mainland who studies this issue told us clearly that, there is no “political offenders” under Chinese law. No matter the “counter-revolutionary” offenders in the past or the current “inciting subversion of state power” offenders, they are not “political offenders” but criminal offenders! Are we not to extradite a criminal offender? Are we not to extradite offenders threatening national security by using “political offender” as a protection shield? Member of think tank in the Mainland said, the logic in Mainland is the opposite! As these people cause damage to national security, Hong Kong should not be the loophole of national security and more justified to extradite (offenders). This is the most dangerous part.
Why do we think that this is dangerous? It is because it is very easy for one to be defined as threatening national security. In the Mainland, if you do anything that the Communist Party doesn’t want you to do and upset the Communist Party, such as criticising the Central Government, supporting the religions in Mainland, reporting some news they don’t like. You are easy to be prosecuted.
In the past, there were a lot of people being prosecuted with false accusations including possession of drugs, theft, espionage. It is very horrible! The system in Mainland China is called “People’s democratic dictatorship”, to put it simply, dictatorship! What is dictatorship? It means that the Government do not need to follow the law and can bypass the law when dealing with their “enemies”. There were many incidents occurred under dictatorship in the Mainland if you still remember. Why were Liu Xia put under house arrest, deprived of personal freedom, for such a long time without following any legal procedures? Why were the people related to Causeway Bay Books kidnapped in places like Hong Kong and Thailand, then voluntarily deprived all legal rights, not to meet their families, and pleaded guilty on television? Why? It is because the Chinese Government is practising dictatorship at that time.
President Liu Shaoqi asked people not to persecute and caused the death of others in the name of constitution, at the end… They left a president who was seriously hurt by the crowd and was required to be sent to hospital for treatment urgently, in a room in Henan secretly and died as he was not saved in time. Dictatorship also made one of the then 10 Marshals of the Communist Party, He Lung, who suffered from diabetes and other illnesses, dead after an injection of a large dose of glucose. The glucose and diabetes caused his death by kidney failure and multiple organ failure.
When a country claims that it exercises rule by law, but it can also exercise dictatorship at anytime, if the Hong Kong legal system will be connected to this dictatorship, in the name of national security… how horrible is this? And this is the original script, which the law would be amended according to this procedure! The original script also included that, the Central Government has assessed the situation of the whole country to prevent any out-of-control situation, to prevent any uncertainties and risks in the beginning of this year. A countrywide meeting for officials of provincial level was held and Xi Jinping gave a speech at the Central Party School. Those famous saying included “grey rhinocero”, “black swan”, “six certainties” are originated from this meeting. The leaders of Communist Party were scared of one thing: the so-called “chaos in the years ending in 9” as the Communist Party witnessed chaos happened in those years ending in 9: 1949 - the Kuomintang was replaced by the Communist; 1959 - the Great Famine; 1969 - Sino-Russian Zhenbao dao War and President Liu Shaoqi was dead; 1979 - Sino-Vietnamese War; 1989 - Tiananmen Square Protests; 1999 - Falun Gong practitioners surrounded the Zhongnanhai (Central Government compound in Beijing); 2009 - 5th July Incident in Xinjiang.
In the beginning of 2019, countrywide meeting was held by the Communist Party to prevent any chaotic situation. They have done a lot and shared experience on handling problems. On the script of the Central Government at that time, the situation in Hong Kong was extremely stable. This was impossible for Hong Kong to become one of the chaos in the “chaos in the years ending in 9”. This was impossible. They were worried about the economics and the possible unemployment problem, US-China Trade War, definitely not Hong Kong issue.
The leaders of Central Government assessed that the circumstance in Hong Kong was very favourable in recent years. Why did they think so? It is because overall jurisdiction is gradually exercising in Hong Kong, the Legislative Council is supported by the pro-establishment camp; the social activists or even people involved in MongKok Riot were serving severe sentences; people of different political views were disqualified, civil awareness of the community became lower and lower; Beijing and Carrie Lam’s team were very confident in passing the bill. Talking about how to handle social movement, Xi Jinping stated that he would change the compromising style of Hu(Jintao)-Wen(Jiabao) Era when he came to power. Xi Jinping said no to “small conflict solves on a small scale, large conflict solves on a large scale, no conflict then nothing will be solved”! He could not allow this situation to continue. None of the policies towards Hong Kong showed any compromise during Xi Jinping’s rule, except no second term of office for CY Leung. It was because he could not get enough votes from the pro-establishment camp and the business sector at that time. One who counted the number of votes (before the election to estimate the number) said that it was difficult enough to get 601 votes. It was not a result of the power of the people. There were 1 million and 30 thousands people joining the demonstration on 9th June, we could see that Carrie Lam and Beijing Government did not compromise. No matter how many people joined the demonstration, they continued the procedures to pass the bill after the demonstration.
When we keep asking: “Where are you God?” “God, why are Hong Kong people tortured like this?” Here comes a reverse! When we question the youngsters as “useless”, on Wednesday 12th June, a situation that we all didn’t want to see occurred, but it made a reverse! A group of youngsters, some of them have written their testaments and decided to block the bullets, charged against Legislative Council and the Police cordon lines! Of course, their acts were illegal from the legal point of view; however, from the point of justice, they didn’t think that this issue should continue in this way. Therefore, they protested. This kind of protest unexpectedly triggered the uncontrolled attack by the upgraded and distorted Hong Kong Police. Even the internal assessment of the Police Force considered that the Police who used guns, shot in the head and used different weapons to attack innocent people, to clear the scene after being clashed, went too far. This is what made the issue reversed! The international pressure made it unbearable for Beijing Government.
Then what was their original plan? On the Mainland television, shots of peaceful assembly were all deleted and would be described as the protesters crashing the Police and attacking like mob. They wanted to claim that Hong Kong mob attacked the Government to gain moral high ground. However, excessive use of force by the Police reversed the whole situation. The original plan of Xi Jinping was called "Fengqiao Experience” which solves the social events on site and not to escalate it; attacks the surface but not to affect the core part. Unfortunately, the HKSAR Government could not solve the problem on site and escalated to the Central Government, and even reached an international level. It created a very big pressure for the Communist Party and made a reverse.
I think this is mercy from God, a miracle from God!
Lastly, I would like to conclude my sharing by the expression shown in one’s eyes. I remember I went to a church with friends after the 12th June incident and saw a pair of policeman at the entrance of the church, looking aggressive and wanted to catch the youngsters in the church. I saw a youngster in church, wearing a black vest, looked terrified in his eyes. I asked him whether I should help him to get clothes so that he could leave. He answered no. He found protection and home in the church, found his real father and mother. When I left the church, from the look of the policemen, it seemed to me that they wanted to catch a child…
May God continues to bless us with peace and may the wounded be given peace. God bless Hong Kong!
Evening of the 19th of June
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終於看了 【黃金兄弟 Golden Job -香港】
不同於 #古惑仔 的幫派鬥爭
而像出任務一樣的 #黃金兄弟
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不過兄弟情義和動作戲碼還是撐起這整部片
雖然Bill黑化壞掉了
但最後還是為他(們)掉下男兒淚😢😢
Bill心中還是有兄弟可惜是在利益之後😔
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#來忘掉錯對_來懷念過去_曾共渡患難日子總有樂趣
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